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    Source: Automakers Won’t Change EV Development Plans | Design News

    Despite a move by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to freeze automotive fuel efficiency standards, automakers and their suppliers are likely to continue down the existing path toward electrification, experts said.

    There are two big reasons for automakers to stay the course, they stated. First, the global market will push them toward electrification, no matter what the EPA does. Second, a lengthy court battle between the EPA and the state of California is imminent, and automakers are unlikely to change their plans until they know the legal outcome.

    “There’s going to be a long, drawn-out battle, and it will probably go all the way to the Supreme Court,” Sam Abuelsamid, senior analyst for Navigant Research, told Design News. “And there’s no guarantee which way the court will rule.” The legal battle could rage on for two or three more years, Abuelsamid added.
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    The US federally is no longer a leader. As a manufacturer you want to have as few productions lines as possible. The CARB states will set the US federal standards along with China and the EU. And if CARB doesn't keep up, it will be all set by China. The design cycle of a vehicle is well over the 10 year mark which makes such political instability an even better reason to just ignore it and carry on.

    Auto manufacturers love to complain. They complain about the "unfair regulations" making their cars cleaner and safer but then tout that their cars are cleaner and safer to sell them. That's what more and more people want. They also don't complain when all the extra gizmos and designs break or require service which profits the service network <cough> GM </cough>.
     
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    More cost effective to spend a bit more to meet CARB standards than make two iterations. Especially when in 2-6 years the executive political forces might have their course corrected.
     
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    Jehu Garcia's You Tube Channel did a live stream of about 2 1/2 hours just for part 1 of a two part series that covers the "Battery Show," which is a giant annual convention in Detroit that just happened. You can watch it here:




    Listening to part 1 on a road trip last week it was pretty impressive to see how an entire convention around batteries is primarily revolving around vehicles.

    Some of the more interesting points were the huge amount of businesses / startups exclusively selling product to auto-manufacturers who are shifting to electric, as well as good old fashion lead acid AGM batteries driving huge battery innovations via super capacitors built into the battery, as well as sensors and phone apps, which is primarily coming from home alarm makers who want batteries that will last for 20-30 years.

    Even more exciting is sodium-iodine which ship at 0 volts, which means much lower shipping cost due to being less hazardous/risks, not to mention the resources to make these batteries don't involve conflict minerals so you don't have to calculate how many enslaved children in Africa it took to build your car's battery pack.

    Looking forward to listening to Part 2 to learn more... It's seems the future is going to be battery powered and electric vehicles are driving the market.

     
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