Baxter performance filter conversion

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  1. Ozark Man

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    I just wondered if anyone has installed the baxter performance conversion from an insert oil filter to a cannister type. I am thinking of doing so if it works ok with no problems. One problem I anticipate from watching a youtube video is that it is spring loaded to keep it pressed (sealed) against the housing. It looks like a strong spring that might make it difficult to get the threads started when trying to screw it on.
     
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    Has this been tested to not affect oil pressure?

    ONEPLUS A5010 ?
     
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    I don't know but that's a good question. The company claims it gets more oil to the vital parts of the engine quicker when it starts.. That's because the cannisters have an anti flowback valve (I think that's what its called) and the other one doesn't.
     
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    I'd be wary - yes, maybe if it was an old banger - but a near new car, I stick with genuine.

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    In regards of the anti drain back valve, that would be more beneficial if the filter is mounted sideways or upside down (like Subaru WRX). Because the anti drain back valve will prevent oil in the filter from leaving the filter when the engine is off, so the next start up, there's already oil in the filter. The Prius filter is mounted right side up , gravity will already draw oil to the filter.
     
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    AND......the advertised "problem" wouldn't be a problem anyway unless the vehicle sits unused for MANY months.
    This is mostly marketing hype and the change will gain you NOTHING useful.
     
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    Well, if I did it I wouldn't be doing it for that reason anyway. It would be to make an oil change more simple and convenient. It's a lot easier to do with the cannister than the messy job it is with a cartridge filter. I don't understand why Toyota changed anyway except to satisfy the "going green" crowd. It's like not putting in a spare tire any more to get better MPG. They were trying to help one thing in a miniscule way and created a bigger problem. I bought a spare tire on ebay to put in the trunk. and I can't tell my MPG changed at all. But, anyway, I still like the Prius. I'm not going to do the conversion since I haven't found anyone on here that has done it. The engine is the last thing I want to experiment on and make a mistake.
     
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    I think mid 2019 Toyota changed back to the canister filter. My 2020 has the canister. Not sure if this is carried out though all models. So Toyota probably got a lot of pissed off service techs and owners.
     
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    Actual conversion was mid-2017.
     
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    Ahh, So you might have just missed it Ozark.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I'm going to break with convention and just answer the question:
    No.
    Haven't used this product.

    However (comma!!!!!!!!)

    In MY never-to-be-humbled opinion it HAS to suck waaaaay less and be less dangerous then the OEM cartridge-in-a-poorly-designed-can design with it's frangible housing and pinchable o-ring.

    I did some quick research and the Baxter product looks legit.
    At $200 it also looks expensive.

    If you keep the car for 200,000 miles, that's 40 oil changes with a 5k OCI...which still adds $5 for each oil change - NOT an insignificant amount.
    The math gets easier after that.
    50,000 miles adds $20 to each oil change...which almost makes non-DIY oil changes look attractive - IF you could count on the person changing the oil!!

    So....
    Too expensive a 'time-saver' for ME personally.
    HOWEVER (comma!)

    I hang out on an internet car chat board, and I've ALWAYS been able to trade a little time and effort to save money, which is why I do all of my own oil changes anyway.
    If I JUST bought a car that I KNEW I was going to do 40 oil changes on, I might fork over $200 for one just to make my life a little easier, but given where the filter is in the FIRST place it wouldn't be a game changer for ME, since I'd still be yanking out the ramps and jack stands.

    ...your call!

    If you get one, help your fellow Prius owners out with a review!!

    Good Luck!
     
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    I missed it as well, but I don't have any real issues changing the cartridge, since I do it myself.
    I'm pretty sure my manufacture date is June 2017. I'll double-check later. My car is currently with Toyota, replacing the exhaust coolant heat exchanger.
     

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    Thanks, At least I got an actual answer. But I still haven't found anybody that has actually used it. I did find a few on another blog the Tundra blog, I think. Generally there were good revues with not much negative. I have always used Castrol and changed my own but I did call my nearest dealer, 50 miles away and they only charge $64.95 so I may use them, Changing my own I haven't had a vehicle that used any oil since I was young , about 50 years ago. I wouldn't trust anyone but a dealer and don't completely trust them. I always felt that they hurried through it too much. Back when I went to service stations to change it I have seen them not give it any time to drain.
    But I am getting to much on up in years to do it much longer I guess. Cost isn't really a factor for me, it's more for convivence. However the baxter thing still makes me a little nervous so I will probably pay a dealer once a year to change it. Maybe they will give me a break on changing transmission fluid and coolants when it comes time. Yeah, right!!! lol Thanks again.
     
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    I'm planning on converting my wife's 2017 Prius 2 but going the Toyota method...buying the bracket, oil filter union, and gasket from Amayama. $62.14 which includes $15 for shipping.
    After installation I'll post and update on how it works. If it leaks, I'll immediately put the old stuff right back on there.
     
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    Thanks, I have ran across that and thought of using it. I thought it was a dealer thing but I called and they said no. It seems more complicated than I have the means and would be able to install.
     
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    Yes, Toyota doesn't seem to keen on encouraging this hack, not sure why since we're using OEM parts....just getting rid of the stupid canisters! If they were smart, they could package up the items in a kit and sell the conversion kit!!
     
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