Beep sound for B Mode?

First, I am not sure who spoke of loss of energy harvest. Surely not me. I never said a word about it. Not the concern in this post. I think you are confusing my query with the many others who talk about whether the B mode affects efficiency. Once again, not the concern in this post.

Second, you clearly have not tried to accelerate in B mode. The car is sluggish. I realize I am in B mode because the car is simply not accelerating as fast as it normally does. Which kinna makes sense when the gear is in BRAKE MODE. Frankly, I can't believe we are having this argument.

Finally, once again, this is all irrelevant to my question. I am sure there are other posts where this info might be useful, if it is correct.

 

Mine was almost 2 at 75,000 and they made me change it, said it would not pass inspections in a few months. They measured it in front of me. I probably drive fast and break often, though I do try to break gently. I was very disappointed, because of course I knew what the average is for this car.

 

Yes, saw that, thanks. I still like to use it (I used to drive manual and I like the downshifting), plus I don't drive gently, but fast, so I can't rely on soft breaking.

You probably have great mileage. What is it btw?

Finally, I am hoping someone who actually has tinkered with the software and is a trained engineer might chip in. I know this is not known, because no one asks for it (I asked my dealer), but that does not mean that the setting is not possible. As we said, you can turn it off and on for Reverse. Maybe for B. Plus they should make it available, as it is the easiest to forget and keep driving in B, which even the manual explicitly says you should not do for long--but it advises you to use it...

 

The cost was more than $750, as of course it was both front and back. Plus you have to change the rotors or resurface the old ones, which apparently costs more. The two serious dealers in my town gave the same estimate. This is 25% less life than the average. I was right to be disappointed.

 

I am not unwilling to mention anything, I am on 3rd Gen Prius forum and it does not make a difference which year (2010 ftr).

The car is not sluggish, it's just fine for a hybrid. It's sluggish when you try to accelerate with B, which is exactly what you should expect, as the car is trying to brake! Cruise control is irrelevant here, of course it does not work when you are braking.

And yes, the brakes were disappointing.

 

I have quoted the manual, so where you see the error I do not know. You misunderstand what I am saying.

Your observations are not relevant to my question, which has not been posed on this forum (as opposed to the topic you are going on about, which has been discussed, exhaustively, but with continuing confusion).

As logic suggests, when a car is placed in BRAKE mode it does not only see an increase in deceleration, but a decrease in acceleration. You may have not noted that, but I note it very distinctly, maybe because I accelerate aggressively (then I see the difference in acceleration, which is how I realize I am in B--so the effect is strong enough to alert me that I have the wrong gear. Even the manual says you should not keep it when driving normally).

I am asking a different question. It's about software. Not what B mode does. I am sure there are other posts where your comments are helpful.

 

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If the computer knows it is meaningless, then where does the decline in fuel efficiency come from? And why is it recommended to switch to D and not to remain in B for long drives? If what you say is true, it should make no difference.

But of course there is a difference as anyone who accelerates aggressively with B gear would confirm.

 

11 and 21 contradict the manual that says very clearly that it harms efficiency.

Not sure why you are so wedded to this view, it does not make sense.

Also, it is not related to my concern. Take care.

 

One last time. The manual says:
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●Do not continue normal driving with the transmission in “B” for a long time.
This may cause decreased fuel economy. To prevent this, use “D” for normal driving."


Ie, you should not be driving in B for a long time. And if it had no effect on the engine, the manual would not be giving this instruction.

I want a buzzing sound to remind me when I have shifted to B. Not sure why this causes so much opposition. I think you are rehearsing a different argument, about B and efficiency, and the comments are not relevant here, even if they were correct.