Better Handling On A Budget !

Discussion in 'Prime Accessories and Modifications' started by Rob43, Aug 16, 2019.

  1. Tha_Ape

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    I just threw on some BF Goodrich advantage sport all- seasons for $345 (mounted and balanced at Costco).

    I haven't pushed them to their limits yet, but when I do, I'll let you know. My Prime came with fuel saver tires that would squeal very easily around corners. I needed some all seasons and Costco was running a special.

    So far im impressed with them. It's supposed to be raining today so I'll give them a little work out on the way home.
     
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    195/65-15 (OE)

    OR

    205/60-15 ? (Upgrade)


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    90k treadlife warranty, H speed rated, Traction/Temp A/A, and not too heavy.

    Buy from America's Tire / Discount Tire Direct, during any one of the many holiday sales they have throughout the year, but be sure to combine with Hankook factory rebates. You won't get a better tire for less money or more value per tire/mile. Despite not being as low RR of true eco tires, you'll never save enough in gas money to make up the difference. These are my go to tire, whenever I need a set.
    If you don't have a store local to you, Costco is the best price for install.

    I don't think the 205/60 is worth it, though. I have the above tires on my 2016 Golf Sportwagen and it would out-handle a Prius with 205 width tires. The load index is the same also. I just don't see the added width as that much of an upgrade and have to believe it would increase RR (rolling resistance) and aero drag.

    (oh, I do have decent data of these tires vs Bridgestone Ecopia, as those were OEM on my GSW - 38.00 mpg over 14k miles so far for the Hankook vs 38.42 for the Ecopia over 46k mi life - the difference is not likely to be statistically significant and definitely not enough to pay for the more expensive Bridgestones with fuel savings)
     
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    Using Tire Racks data for this tire & the Avid GT, here's my conclusion:

    1) MPG's: Both tires are virtually the same.

    2) Dry Performance: Almost the same with the a fractional nod going to the Kinergy PT.

    3) Wet Performance: The Avid GT is the hands down winner for incredible safety.


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    A quick Heads Up:

    The $60 dollar Yokohama Fall Rebate ends on October 31st, make sure you purchase from a Yokohama approved retailer.

    Yokohama Tire Corporation



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    Well you guys convinced me...well at least for our non-Prius vehicle. I ordered the Yokahama Avid Ascent GT's for our Hyundai Elantra GT. We will see how it goes. However, *anything* is better than the absolute crap OEM tires ( Hankook Optimo H426 ). If you look up the hankook H426's on TireRack, they have absolutely horrid ratings...it's a wonder we even survived the winter with those on! :eek: Luckily the car wasn't driven much in the winter though since my wife used to work from home. The Ascent Avid GT's literally look orders of magnitude better in all areas.

    As for our Prius vehicles, they both have Michelin Defenders on...so probably a while until we have to make another tire decision on those! (y)

    Anyway, thanks all for the great discussion here!
     
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    Looking forward to your mini review in about a month, hopefully you'll have some wet and dry experience with them by then.


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    It just snowed 4" here... plus potential record breaking cold next week. It's too early for this! The Michelin Defenders did great. I'm looking forward to trying the Avid Ascends soon!
     
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    Wow, you DO have early snow...

    According to Tire Rack, the "Snow" rating is actually quite good on the Avid GT's at 8.4 points. The Michelin Defenders & my General AS-05 don't score as high.


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    Yeah...this is a strange year. Usually SE Minnesota is warmer than northern Minnesota ( MN is a big state ). However, in theory it is supposed to warm up long term. Many of us here got caught off guard and didn't even finish our Fall yard work yet ( because the trees had not dropped all their leaves yet )!

    Interesting. I looked up the TireRack chart on the Michelin Defenders again and the snow rating is much lower now than when we got them ( it was in the high 8's ). One thing I have noticed is that the chart scores (especially snow rating) on many tires tend to lower as the "miles reported" number goes up....and the Defenders have over 12,000,000 miles reported. The Avid Ascend GT's only have 439,000 miles reported. It will be interesting to see what happens as the reports come in over time.
     
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    Are you able to give your mini review on your Yokohama Avid Ascend GT's yet?

    We'd all like to hear your thoughts....



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    I still love the Yokohama Avid Ascend GTs I got in early May. Fantastic rain tires. Almost 14k miles on them so far. I'm guessing you've had some more serious snow now, @farmecologist. Did you get to try out the Yokos?
     
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    I have them...but they are not on the 2013 Elantra GT yet. I had a silly series of events with Amazon regarding the tires :
    • Bought the tires at what was a good price at the time...Amazon had the best price (and free returns..which is key).
    • Tires arrived. Checked on Amazon and the price had dropped substantially.
    • Called Amazon to get a credit for the difference. Customer service claimed they could not give me a credit due to 'policy'. I mentioned that the current set had free returns and it would be a win win to give me the credit. No dice.
    • I had them set up a free return ( kind of a hassle ).
    • Placed a new order for the same tires at the greatly reduced price.
    • Received the new tires. And the return of the old ones just completed.
    Pretty silly...eh? Seems like Amazon lost money on this deal. (y) Really silly that they didn't give me the credit for the difference!

    Now I need to get them installed. Apparently Costco will NOT install tires purchased via a third party anymore ( they used to way back when ). I have a local shop that will do it though...just need to get it set up.

    The Michelin Defenders on our 2013 v (wagon) got a workout over the thanksgiving weekend though. I had to drive our daughter to college and back...in the middle of a freeing rain storm. Kudos to the road crews...they fought the freezing rain very well but there were still quite a few stretches that were really icy (as in hardly any brake response ).
     
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    ^ Oh well,....that sucks,.....Amazon is stupid.


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