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Beware of Cat Stevens: The newest terrorist threat!!

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by DaveinOlyWA, Sep 22, 2004.

  1. Marg

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    I do not know, I thought that good ol' Yusuf/Cat was trying to be one of the good guys.

    The documentation I have read seems to suggest that he has repeatedly denounced the 9/11 attacks and insisted on numerous occasions that peace is consistent with his religion, not terrorism.

    The worst thing I've heard about him is that he signed a petition urging that Salman Rushdie's book, the Satanic Verses, not be published. This action was interpreted as supporting the fatwah against Rushdie, something that he insists was never his intention. Even so, he has publicly regretted even signing the petition.

    Maybe I've been reading the wrong sources though. Has the dude really denounced democracy?
     
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    George Orwell, literary genius.
     
  3. Sufferin' Prius Envy

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    Whether Cat Stevens is a threat or not, the airplane was diverted for no other reason than to send a message to the airlines that they must follow procedures and check the list. It is not up to the airlines to decide who is and who is not allowed to fly into the USA. Yusuf's name was on the no-fly list that United Airlines employees were supposed to check. A several hundred thousand dollar hit to United’s bottom line will make them and all other airlines think twice . . . even if the name on that list is Kennedy!

    As for a “welcoming entrance to your country†apparently you have not flown into London Heathrow as a non-British subject. “Who are you. Who are you traveling with. Purpose for your visit to the UK. How long will you be staying. Name and number of where you are staying. Are you planning to work while in the UK . . .â€
     
  4. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i can easily believe that the US would destroy a US landmark and kill 3000 people. there is no other way they could have violated 3 of the Bill of Rights without a drastic step and they simply did what was necessary. they will rationalize sacrificing 3000 people would be ok to save 300 million.

    bet they didnt figure the towers would fall.

    you tell me im crazy...

    it is conveinent that the towers were hit during the lowest rate of occupancy.

    the pentagon was hit in an area that was practically empty because of construction.

    with technology that allows us to read newspapers from space how is it we cant find bin laden?

    what would you do to preserve a 150 billion dollar a year industry?
     
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    Man oh man, that is soooo off base. What planet are some of these Prius owners living on? The Giant All Is Green & We Have No Brains Planet of the great nebulus system known as The Wacky Way!
    Yeah, sure. It was planned????? Geeeeeez. Sounds like this is not the country for some of these people. Thank God for the sound thinkers that will keep the wackos out of office again this election year.
     
  6. deh2k

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    Masked Man, you should be ashamed of yourself to imply that the US somehow belongs to religous conservatives. I'd wear a mask too if I were you.
     
  7. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    There are few people who despise the American government more than I do, or who are more disgusted with its foreign policy, from the brutal massacres of Indian women and children and the kidnapping into slavery of countless Africans at the birth of our nation, to the intentional burning of children to death or disfigurement in Vietnam around the time of my political awakening, and all the other atrocities of our long and ignoble history.

    But to assert that the U.S. government carried out the 9/11 attacks is just plain preposterous. George Bush clearly has not an atom of feeling in his body, and could not care less about the 3,000 dead of 9/11 or the far greater number of dead in the wars that followed; but to suggest that the CIA would be capable of carrying out such an attack and covering it up, is ridiculous.

    I gather that there is an agency of the U.S. government whose job is to test airline security by trying to get fake guns past the screening, and I read somewhere that security is worse now than before 9/11. It is now easier than it was to get weapons on board a plane. I speculate that the reason for this is that security guards are now required to perform all sort of random searches which take them away from the more effective job of keeping their eyes open. And I believe that the intent of the government is not to increase security, but to increase fear by making a more visible show of security, because the greater the general level of fear, the more the public will support draconian measures depriving people of their civil rights.

    Now Iraq is ruled by a government hand-picked by the U.S. and kept in power by an occupying army of American troops, and Bush repeats at every opportunity that Iraq now enjoys "full soverignty." Sorry, but this smacks of the Nazi-controlled Vichy government of occupied France.

    How many children would Jesus kill, to stop the people who disagreed with him? How many children are you willing to kill to keep the oil flowing so GM can continue to sell SUV's?

    The attack on 9/11 was despicable and vile and cannot possibly be justified by any imaginable argument. By the same token, the countless acts of equally-barbaric and unjustifiable terrorism that our country has committed for two and a quarter centuries, have no possible justification.

    On 9/11 we got some of our own back. That does not justify it. But it sure makes our righteous rage ring hollow!
     
  8. finman

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    Check out this link, if it is still available and not been pulled by our cover-up govt.: http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryho...ntagon.php#Main
    Checkout ANY '911 truth' google searches.
    Make your own conclusions. There are ALOT of loopholes/missing info/incorrect science, etc. We ARE being misled! Love my Prius...
     
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    i had seen that video before. very disturbing though i can't say i know exactly what all the ramifications of it are.
     
  10. daniel

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    So, what they're saying is, that after two commercial airliners crashed into the Twin Towers, and while a fourth was on its way to crashing into a field because the passengers overpowered the hijackers, the CIA made the third hijacked airliner disappear into thin air and hit the Pentagon with a missile instead. Have I got that right? And if so, what did they do with the third airliner and all the people in it? Maybe they took them to Roswell to feed to the ET's they're breeding there? Yep. Sounds plausible to me.
     
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    I think that daniel has it right. While the US government had the motive and the opportunity, I really doubt they had their act together enough to pull something like that off.

    My belief is that they wanted to cover up the fact that they messed up big time before and during the attack, and they also realized the huge benefit (financially and politically) in starting up a War On Terror. Not the least of those benefits was an excuse to take over Iraq which has lots of oil and a leader who's been a big pain for the Bush family. Curtailing people's civil liberties is another.

    The third sentence of the Declaration of Independence reads:

    That to secure these rights [to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness], governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

    It is the right, and I believe the duty, of US citizens to make sure their government stays in line. Its behavior severely threatens our rights. I urge everyone who can to vote in the upcoming election.
     
  12. finman

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    Why are there SO many unanswered questions? Why is there this big cover-up at the Pentagon? Why aren't more people asking questions? I don't have answers, yet it seems people who do are not very forthcoming with information...or else been silenced by the feds. Who knows? Maybe we never will, but I for one will continue to question the US gov't. I haven't been around long enough to answer my own questions about suspect US gov't policy, but I am trying to understand. Too many unanswered questions that we, as American tax payers, are paying for every year. Kinda disappointing, don't ya think? Drive fun, drive clean, drive Prius!
     
  13. Sufferin' Prius Envy

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(deh2k\";p=\"41481)</div>
    Gee deh2k,
    Thanks for bringing up a good point.

    The Declaration of Independence.

    Read the accusations against King George III - see how many of those same accusations could be made today against Saddam Hussein by the people of Iraq . . .

    " . . .a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny . . .He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good . . He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people . . .He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers . . .He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone . . .He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. . .depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury . . . enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

    Do the people of Iraq not deserve Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness????

    Should we not blame the French for getting involved in our war of independence against Great Britain???

    If we are in Iraq to steal the oil . . . why didn’t we keep Kuwait????
     
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    I must have missed the part about France invading America in the 1770s when I learned American history in school. I stand corrected.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(deh2k\";p=\"41515)</div>
    If you missed the American Revolution in school, you were probably just exercising your own ideas of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.:p

    Believe it or not, France was on our side!!! . . .but mostly because they were bitter enemies of Great Brittan in their one-upmanship war for world domination. But we repaid the French by saving their butts in two World Wars.

    (Yep, I know [or severely hope] you were being sarcastic)
     
  16. daniel

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    The people of Iraq had every right to overthrow their government. It's rather a big leap from that to giving Bush et. al. the right to take over Iraq.

    As for the "unanswered questions," W does not want the American public to grasp how badly he bollixed up everything, both before and after 9/11.

    By the way, has anyone noticed that that video about the "unanswered questions" is hosted on a porn site? Curious choice, if it was legitimate reporting.
     
  17. Danny

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    Update

    Spelling Mistake To Blame for Cat Stevens Terror Scare

    Yusuf Islam, the British singer formerly known as Cat Stevens, was refused entry into America because of a spelling error. The 57-year-old singing star - who abandoned a successful solo career in 1977 to become a Muslim - was on a flight from London to Washington on Tuesday when his name was spotted on a US security 'watch list' and his flight was diverted before officials deported him back to Britain. Aviation sources, with access to the "no-fly" list, now insist there is no entry on the list under the name 'Yusuf Islam', but that there is a 'Youssouf Islam' on the list. The US Transportation Safety Administration alleges that Islam has links to terrorist groups, which he has denied. In a statement Islam says, "We have now initiated a legal process to try to find out exactly what is going on, and to take all necessary steps to undo the very serious, and wholly unfounded, injustice which I have suffered. The amazing thing is that I was not given, and have still not been given, any explanation whatsoever as to what it is I am accused of, or why I am now deemed an apparent security threat - let alone given an opportunity to respond to these allegations. I was simply told that the order had come from on high."
     
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    Aha! Microsoft Word is to blame, as usual! :mrgreen:
     
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    I wonder if CBS is the one who put together the no-fly list.
     
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    Let's see... Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao-Tse Tung, Alexander the Great, Gengis Khan... I've never really thought of them as being religious leaders.