1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Featured Bolt the cannibal and used hybrid/plug-in generator

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,849
    8,153
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    It'll especially be a success if enough buyers decide they don't need seating for 5 - the troubling thing, for some. Still - the notion of a manufacturer settling for just keeping existing customers . . . doesn't that kind of sound like putting a tourniquet on profuse bleeding - as opposed to being the one whose causing the other guy to do the bleeding?
    Keeping your lunch vs taking everyone else's lunch.
    .
     
    #21 hill, Dec 15, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2016
    RCO and Trollbait like this.
  2. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,754
    5,245
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Let's not overlook GM's choice to not target mainstream buyers with Volt, twice.

    It took years for them to admit the audience miss. But then to repeat the mistake...
     
    #22 john1701a, Dec 15, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2016
    RCO likes this.
  3. Prius Maximus

    Prius Maximus Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    935
    780
    1
    Location:
    Northeastern IL
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Yes, it's sickening. My two rear endeds were people not paying attention in rush hour traffic. My '04 had a little over 197,000 miles and I was looking forward to rolling over 200,000 when I was stopped in traffic and a guy hits me at about 40 mph. Said his brakes failed, yet the cop let him drive away. The C, I was going about 10 and slowing for a traffic jam when a pickup hit me at about 60 mph or more. Not much left to the car, surprised I wasn't seriously injured.

    The wife's C was going along at 35 when an oncoming car made a left turn in front of her but hit her head on. No way to avoid it. She broke her sternum - probably from the seatbelt. Two years later she still has issues with her neck and back. The kid had no insurance in effect though he had a card so the cop didn't give him an extra ticket. We're still paying the medical bills and paying for cars we didn't plan on.

    I honestly believe these cars saved our lives. As long as Toyota builds cars like the Prius, I'm a customer. One reason I want a Prime, is to get out of a car I was forced to buy for a need and to get a car I want. I'm reminded of it every time I get in it, and I'm not too thrilled with the 3rd gens anyway....
     
    RCO likes this.
  4. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,658
    49,371
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    it takes a lot more time, money and effort to get a new customer, than to retain a current one. too many business's lose sight of that fact, and end up swimming against the tide.
    sure, you want to focus on new business, but not at the expense of current.
     
    RCO likes this.
  5. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,849
    8,153
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    Tide? Current?
    nice
     
  6. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,754
    5,245
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Low hanging fruit... A unique product with a $7,500 tax-credit is a very different situation.

    Of course, we aren't really talking about retention anyway. It's getting traditional buyers to stop buying traditional vehicles.
     
  7. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,849
    8,153
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    I can't believe a manufacturer gives a rip if my prior car is an ev, a phev, a hev or a guzzling hemi. They want sales where ever they can get 'em. Sure - I care, & you care if traditional car owners switch ... but dealerships? Not so much.
    .
     
    #27 hill, Dec 15, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2016
    RCO and Prius Maximus like this.
  8. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,754
    5,245
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Not reducing their production of traditional vehicles is a very big deal... hence needing to switch to something with an electric motor... fleet consumption & emissions.
     
  9. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,658
    49,371
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    bingo. but they know how to go about it. better to pay someone off to reduce requirements.
    really, tesla is the only one willingly in the game.
     
    RCO likes this.
  10. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,849
    8,153
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    therein lies the huge quandary for traditional auto manufacturers .... keep the high-profit pickups & SUVs churning out. Big oil loves big users of their products too. It's almost schizophrenic if you think about it too long.
    .
     
    RCO and john1701a like this.
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,658
    49,371
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    that's why they need a little encouragement, because consumers don't care either. so we have a country where half the people believe in mmcc, but won't change their habits accordingly.
     
    RCO likes this.
  12. fotomoto

    fotomoto Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2009
    5,602
    3,778
    0
    Location:
    So. Texas
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    That changed on Nov 8th.
     
    bisco likes this.
  13. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,658
    49,371
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    oh! there goes the neighborhood!:p
     
    RCO likes this.
  14. fotomoto

    fotomoto Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2009
    5,602
    3,778
    0
    Location:
    So. Texas
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    RCO likes this.
  15. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,849
    8,153
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    Beats getting rained on and/or run over.

    .
     
    RCO likes this.
  16. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,658
    49,371
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    yeah, but her carbon footprint went way up.
     
    RCO likes this.
  17. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,369
    15,511
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Hey, let's post the magic word, "Trump" in all threads! Move them all to Freds House of Politics.

    Bob Wilson
     
    RCO and bisco like this.
  18. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,849
    8,153
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    sigh . . . .
     
    RCO and bwilson4web like this.
  19. Prius Maximus

    Prius Maximus Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    935
    780
    1
    Location:
    Northeastern IL
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I hope discussion of saving the ecosystem trumps Trump...
     
    RCO likes this.
  20. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,369
    15,511
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    IMHO, the hypersensitivity to political references should be suspended for the holidays. BUT I am not a moderator (nor pretensions). Not my 'hyob'.

    Bob Wilson
     
    RCO likes this.