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Brakes knocking a bit on turns

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Piotrus Pan, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. Piotrus Pan

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    Hi all!

    My brakes knock a bit (non metallic sound) when I brake and turn at the same time. The outer clamp of the brake moves a little so I went to a mechanic.
    He was a non-toyota mechanic that's why I want to make sure here cause he said it's normal.
    Reason for the knocking is heat and the fact that you have to turn to hear it. The brake clamp is on two moving pins and it makes sense for me that sometimes they will move to sides too.
    Did you guys experienced anything like that?

    When I brake with wheels pointed forward there are no sounds.
     
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    Is there any chance you are discussing your brakes?
     
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    Yeah, yeah ... pick on non-english person for making mistakes, real mature :)
     
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    You are right, I missed that he was from Luxemburg. I was wrong to fuss.
     
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    I don't want to point fingers but did you meant "... he was ..." or was it supposed to be "... you were ..."? :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I seem to be distracted today, I also missed that you were the OP. I will go and stick 2400 seals on folders, I can't to that wrong. (Yet)
     
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    how many miles on her? is the sound new? i have never heard a knocking sound while braking and turning.
     
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    I got about 86'000 miles.
    I don't think I heard that before. I usually brake before the turn but lately I've been driving more "aggressive" just to see how the car reacts. Maybe that's why I didn't hear that before.
    We had a long and hot summer this year and front pads and discs were changed a year ago.
     
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    i would try another mechanic or dealer, unless someone else here has an idea, it doesn't seem right to be hearing noise from your brakes.

    have you tried putting it in neutral for pure braking to see if there's a difference?
     
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    Disc brake calipers are "theoretically" floating on pins, but their side-to-side movement is very cumbersome and restricted. The pins are close tolerance and have heavy grease too. It sounds like something is loose: dust shield, suspension, brake line, speed sensor?
     
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    I've been to Toyota dealer. They said that the break pads are close to the moment when I'll need to replace them so I'll just do it right away since I'll be doing a long trip soon.
     
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    Dealer brake jobs...There goes $400
     
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    Here it's going to be 80 € for pads and 40 € for work.
    I would do it myself and I even tried but the pins that the caliper slides on are so stuck I can't get them off and I can't use too much force cause my only means of lifting this car is a jack and I'm afraid I'll tip that jack over when fighting with those pins.
     
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    That's not a bad price.

    For caliper pins to be that stuck is not normal, sounds like a thorough brake service is way overdue.

    If working on them yourself, say the front: properly chock the rear wheels and use safety stands at the front.
     
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    In sum it eventually went down to 111 € cause the mechanic did it faster than anticipated.
    I had front discs changed at the end of February this year but not by Toyota, so maybe they overtightened the bolts, I don't know.
    I too partially take responsibility cause I probably overheated them a lot since I was testing some aggressive driving to see how the car handles it. It's stiff and clearly made to be driven like an 80 yo grandpa would. Don't get me wrong, I like driving like an 80 yo grandpa but it would be nice to know that I have more "choices" ;)
    I got those safety stands too but I imagine if those stands miss the correct support edge while the car is falling of the jack, I will get new ventilation intake in the floor :p
    Next time if it will come off by hand, I'll do it myself otherwise I'll look for someone with a lift that mechanics have.

    Also, there are no more noises from the brakes.
     
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    That's good, likely it's sorted then.

    An honest mechanic, priceless!

    If I'm jacking up the front, with the jack on the front/central point, I don't put the safety stand on the proscribed scissor jack locations, in between the two notches on the pinched seam. I find it way too unstable/weak. This is what I prefer:

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    A better overview:

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