Buying a prime tomorrow

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  1. gscully

    gscully Junior Member

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    82958A2A-1744-48A6-B3AA-C4EABA190DCA.jpeg I had a 2013 Prius C that I just smacked up. It looks like I’m going to be replacing with a Prime XLE. It’s amazing the differences in six years. The stay in lane feature blows my mind.
    I originally planned on getting 2019 AWD but it didn’t have navigation which I need and no Apple play. I was amazed at the huge display with the XLE.
    I’m in NY and should be paying 28 plus tax. Does this sound reasonable?
    I also have an outlet that we used for a Motorhome we used to have. I’ll attach a picture. Can I use this to charge the Prime?
     
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    As for your charging. Talk with rob43 to get a rat tail that allows you to charge at 240v 12 amp using the stock charger. Mine works great off an dryer/rv plug in the garage.

    You will love the prime btw. Can't say much about pricing.
     
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    Congrats on your new Prime !

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    Yes, you can use your NEMA 14-50R to charge up your new Prime. You have several choices:

    1) Buy a $49 adapter so that you can use your Toyota OE 120v EVSE at 240 volts.

    2) Buy a ~$199 China built EVSE from Ebay that has a 14-50P.

    3) Buy a ~$420 US built EVSE like ClipperCreek that has a 14-50P.


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    You could run a Juice Box 40 off that outlet.
     
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    How much does that unit cost ?


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    I paid $299.00 though a Costco deal on a 2nd Juice Box with wifi.
     
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    ? I just went to Costco, looks like ~$550 ?


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    Looking at the past Earth day deals for Costco members and i can't find the old deal. Right now that have only $50 off. I also used my Costco credits for the year so my cost was a bit over $250. I think i put the cost in a thread here.....
     
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    congrats!
    check the prime pricing thread.

    what's the msrp? is 28 the price after rebates and discounts, before tax, title, license?
     
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    Msrp is 31,1xx.

    With these adapters, am I getting a 2 hour charge or a 9 hour charge?

    Thanks for the replies.
     
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    At 220v it should be a 2 hour 10 min charge. Worst you'll do (110v) is 5 hours 50 minutes.
     
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    The voltage available from our service is 245 volts. That shaves 20 to 25 minutes off of a full charge. 1h 45m is how long my most recent overnight took with that.
     
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    Good question.

    When using your Toyota OE EVSE unit at 120 volts, your charge up time from 0% will be about 5 1/2 hours.

    When using one of my Rob43 10 AWG Pure Copper adapters with your OE EVSE unit at 240 volts, your charge up time from 0% will be about 2 1/2 hours.


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    Perfect Rob. Thank you. Just what I wanted to know. Does it matter that the plug is outside?

    Do you work on bike suspensions or cars?
     
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    This statement is a bit vague, "Does it matter that the plug is outside?", could you be more specific ?

    Car suspensions. I have a friend in Iowa that specializes in motorcycles suspensions.

    Take a quick look at my thread, Using The Primes 120v Charger at 240 Volts.



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    I meant the outlet I posted a picture of is on a post outside.
     
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    While we have you here, Go read the manual on Customization and make your choices.
    Before you buy, the salesman will agree to do them for free. After you are an owner, you deal with the Service Department and some insist on charging the customer.

    https://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM47C77U/pdf/OM47C77U.pdf starts on page 741, try to think through you situation now while it is free.

    I park indoors so I want the headlights to go off after 0 seconds, you may want 90 seconds to get back to the house from the outlet.
    I want one beep in reverse, you may want it to beep as long as you are in reverse.
    I want one click of the fob to unlock all locks, you may want the first click to only unlock the driver's door. Similarly, if you grab a door handle, do you want them all to unlock or only your door?

    Customization and Initialization goes on to page 752, lots of ways to make the car all yours.
     
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    I can't tell if it still has that Clear closing top, as long as it's "reasonably" rain proof you're good to go.

    My actual charge handle is mounted on the outside of my garage, it never sees rain because of the roof overhang.


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    Congrats!!

    yup a 14-50R can charge a Prime but of course 50A is overkill since the Prime accepts a max of 16A. (Or was it 15?)
    2h10 mins on 240V/16A (e.g. 3rd party EVSE) Or 2.5 hours if you go with Rob’s method of using the stock cable (240V at 12A).
     
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    My JuiceBox L2 gives me 1h55m to full, 2h8m in the winter. Short time due to our voltage here seems to be 125v most of the time, so 250v at 16 amp (the Prime's max due to it's 3.3kW onboard charger). If you need to charge at home twice in a day, that might make sense.

    But... the 240v hack mentioned above at the car's software max (12A) using the supplied 120v charger should yield about ~2.5 hours. Not such a huge difference.

    Probably the only reason to go full L2 240v 40A EVSE is to future-proof if you'll be getting a BEV car soon. Example: the Tesla Model 3 can take up to 240v 32A (base or SR+) on home AC based EVSE's.
     
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