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Featured CA HOV Update (re: PHEV/Prime Demand)

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by wjtracy, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

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    Re: PHEV demand
    I see that California has a new bill proposing to extend HOV green/white stickers to 2025 (from 2019).
    I *assume* that bill will probably pass and will assure decent Prime sales in the future. One aspect to look for is the older PiP treatment, but I assume it is questionable...not sure

    "AB 544 | Author: Bloom ... zero-emission vehicles, or transitional zero-emission vehicles to use HOV lanes for four years after vehicle identifiers are issued".
     
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    Hold that wagontrain . . . . it aint that simple
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    CA HOV Stickers may die a painful death (both green & white) because studies consistently show lanes are jammed to the point that they FAIL to maintain speeds of 45 mph per fed requirements for matching funds ... & the HOV lanes have remained that way for a 1/2 decade & more.

    Mounting evidence suggests High Occupancy Vehicle lanes are useless

    Similarly, studies show - a full THIRTY % are scofflaws ... cheaters ... feeling they'll get away with HOV lane use despite NOT car-pooling and/or despite HOV appropriate people NOT bothering to even apply for appropriate stickers (1/2 of the <8% clean car users).

    California may get tougher on carpool cheaters

    So . . . typical with bureaucracy ... rather than go after the 30% ... they want to tie punishment to the less than 1/2 of the 8% ... and NOT renew stickers, UNLESS more enforcement $$$ is allocated to going after the 30%.

    What a great idea !!! kill stickers, so, rather than have 30% cheaters ... the state can have nearly 38% cheaters. Gotta love big gub'ment. So unless our elected's get their heads out of their thinking sphincters . . . . stickers go away in a little over a year. This is why i run my work travel time during 4AM & 1:15PM. The rest of you? I feel for ya ... but you're on your own, for counting on our elected's to incorporate rational thinking.
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    Hill thank you, yes I saw those articles.
    You are correct, I don't think we can definitely say what will happen.

    CA is between a rock and hard place, whether to continue with a major plug-in incentive, or try to solve the traffic problem by mandating HOV-3. In VA we are kicking hybrids out of free HOV, and going to HOT-3. But Cali is trying to single-handedly prove the plug-in concept is successful. So past history suggests CA will error on the side of keeping the plug-in incentives, just my guess
     
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    Any updates on the greens stickers going beyond 1/1/2019?
     
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    Good question...I have not heard anything yet
     
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    There is already a HOV-3 here in one part of the Bay Area. I wish I could remember exactly where, but I cover way too much territory and normally don't have 2+ others ride in my car with me.

    Don't forget about the Late Night Show that does the Car Sing-a-long episodes. It had one poking fun of how it turned from HOV-2 to HOV-3 to even higher all the sudden.
     
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    Is it both green and white HOV stickers ending 2019 pending extensions, or is it only green stickers?
    PHEV sales will start to suffer soon without extension, I would think.
     
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