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[CALIF] Warning! SCE Customers Moved to new Plan unless told otherwise

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by stevepea, Jul 18, 2020.

  1. stevepea

    stevepea Senior Member

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    I posted this in the PRIME Charging forum, but am posting it here as well, as it affects a lot of people in California, many of whom may not see this post if it was only in the Prime Charging area...

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    For those living in SCE areas of Calif, starting in October SCE will CHANGE your rate plan unless you specifically ask to stay on your current plan. They will change you to a plan of their choice, which may NOT be in your best interest.

    The purpose of this post isn't to tell you which plan is right for you. You'll have to determine that for yourself. But if you do not SPECIFICALLY tell SCE to keep you on your current plan, they will change you to a TOU plan of their choice.

    Figuring out which is the best for you isn't easy, they make it as hard as possible.

    The TOU plans have higher rates than the current Domestic (normal) rate plans but do include a small variable credit (based only on your monthly baseline allowance -- which changes each month) making it hard to figure out which is the better plan unless you can look back at what your monthly baseline allowance was for the past year or so (and hope it doesn't change in the future). Trying to get that info from a service rep is next to impossible if you haven't saved your bills.

    At any rate, you'll need to do the math and figure out what plan you want to be on BEFORE October, because if you don't inform them of any choice by October, they'll switch you to a rate plan of their choice automatically.

    EDIT: IMPORTANT: NEW INFORMATION:
    (1) The language SCE uses about applying the baseline credit (esp with the included examples) is misleading/fradulent. If you pick a TOU plan, you're given a credit (currently 8c) "up to your baseline" (and the included example states that if your "baseline is 200, then you'll get a $16 credit on your bill"). That's misleading at best. The credit will apply only to ACTUAL ENERGY USED, not your full baseline, if you use less than your baseline (which I do every month). So if your baseline is 200 and you USE all 200 you'll get a $16 credit on your bill. But if your baseline is 200 and you only use 100 that month, your credit will only be $8 not $16. SCE doesn't spell this out, and makes it misleading in their wording and examples.

    Here's a clearer (more honest) way to say it than SCE does: If you use a TOU plan, you'll get (currently) 8c off the TOU kw rate for each kw actually used in your baseline (and no credit for anything used above the baseline).

    So if your baseline is 360 (more common) and you use 500 in a particular month, you'll get the 8c/kw only off your first 360. But if your baseline is the same 360 and you only use 127 of that 360, you'll get 8c off the 127kw you actually used (not the full 360).

    The TOU kw rates are much higher than the Domestic rates, with the 8c credit helping bring down the cost, so you'll have to do the math as to which one is better for you.

    (2) While you can switch between TOU plans as you like, once you switch to a TOU plan, you can then only switch back to the normal (Domestic) plan either once or twice during a 12 month period (from the way it was worded it wasn't clear if it was once or twice per 12mo period). So if you switch to a TOU plan, don't like it, and want to switch back to the normal Domestic plan you can, but you can't switch back to a normal (Domestic) plan more than once (or twice?) during any 12 mo period.
     
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  2. AzusaPrius

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    Side note the Ecobee thermostat is a great addition to anyones home and it will help keep the bill low.

    - This has been a non paid comment
    and should not be taken as such.
     
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  3. hill

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    sounds like someone's not married - when temperature control is a non-issue .... & negotiating 2° or 3° to save money is
    off the table. Then comes menopause - and you suddenly find yourself living in a meat locker .... having to wear heavier clothing indoors, on a long/hot summer afternoon & evening. Living with somebody who's constantly hot is how you eat up juice from an 8kW (AC) PV solar array in short order.
    As for SCE ? they've added several schemes over the decades to keep PV owner's benefits. Many of their requests to the Public Utilities commission allows the executives to justify bigger bonuses & a greater travel stipends.
    Then there were the fires, which gave evidence of utilities' glaring neglect of proper maintenance, moving power poles a few more feedback from highways so people couldn't rasily run into them, knock them down, and easily start fires in dry brush. Easier to pay off all the fire victims apparently, rather than do the right thing when an executive bonus is based on cutting corners.
    Meanwhile SCE has run ads portraying those mean solar people who get free electricity .... which causes poor old grandma down the street to suffer a rate hike, to make up for SCE financial losses, while those horrible solar people get off scott free from paying the utility. Truth be told, SCE doesn't have to build more power stations because of us, and yet they paint us as the bad guys .... rather than those who coughed up tens of thousands - in essence, paying for their power up front. No surprise SCE is working on their next money-saving grand scheme.
     
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    I am married and the Ecobee does a great job and knows when people are in the house and adjust to humidity levels saving money.
     
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    We got moved to a different electricity source (CPA) but serviced by SCE, late last year, from tiered net metering to TOU net metering. We end up with a good negative balance so long as we don't charge my wife's Clarity PHEV. We're a net producer though, so went with 100% green energy.

    moto g(7) power ?