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Camry/ES engine swap project!

Discussion in 'Other Cars' started by galaxee, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    found a rack for cheap online, but we need to put our solenoid on it before we can use it. ordered axle seals, trans pan gasket, front oil pump seal, rear main today.

    once all that comes in, the fun begins!
     
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    with any luck, the engine and trans are coming out of the ES this weekend. hopefully the weekend after that, the camry engine and trans will go in and we'll be good to go! we're all excited :)
     
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    engine and trans are out of the ES. fortunately, the camry engine-trans removal will be much cleaner than this, that engine compartment was a mess. the camry is much cleaner, no oil leaks or anything.

    first few things out of the way
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    shot of the engine in there
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    hooking up the cherry picker
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    and it's out of there
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    engine compartment pretty much empty
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    engine and trans in their current resting place
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    Wow. I can't begin to follow that.

    But I see they're letting him work on the car at work. Nice since they have all of the equipment.

    So....you just have to fill up the hole with the Camry stuff that works and hook it up? (Okay, I know that's simplistic.)

    Did you get the rack, solenoid, axle seals, trans pan gasket, front oil pump seal and rear main?
     
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    :lol: and imagine, he did all that in like 3 hours! he can do work on our cars after hours so long as he follows their rules. otherwise this would have been much harder.

    everything's here but the rack- that should come in on tuesday. if you look in the empty engine compartment pic, you can see the old rack still in there- the black tube way in the back toward the bottom. it's so simple to replace with the engine out. we're just going to reuse the old solenoid, it was obscenely expensive to buy another.

    so once that's done, he will do the same thing to the camry as he just did in all these pics. chances are the engine and trans will come out separately, though. then the engine wiring harnesses have to be swapped out, couple other little things to swap, and finally it can all go back together. he isn't working next weekend so that will probably be when the rest happens.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jun 29 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]470189[/snapback]</div>
    It stands for "Dear Hubby"! :lol:
     
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    DH=domestic hassle
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frank Hudon @ Jul 11 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]476909[/snapback]</div>
    when he's actually home ;)

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    sooooo the verdict is GAH.
    gah, as in, it didn't get all the way finished and will have to be done sometime next week before we leave on vacation. which in itself is a whole 'nother gah. :blink:

    friday just sucked, plain and simple. we ended up getting the camry engine almost ready to take out by the tiem 11:30 rolled around and we had to leave.
    today, the camry engine came out, wiring harnesses were swapped, knock sensor was installed, valve cover gasket done, valve cover taken from es engine. rear main and oil pan gaskets done, uhh... intake manifolds swapped. reassembled camry suspension to roll it out to the parking lot. spent lots of time investigating which car has the better part, ie which one to keep. put the collective good motor mounts on the es, installed new cooling system hoses. parts guy gave him one of the wrong axle seals for the trans, that's *wonderful* news. i'm so excited i can't sleep :rolleyes: actually i don't know why i can't sleep.

    so the trans needs its seals. the pan gasket is being done once it's hanging in the car, it's currently sitting on the pan so that's not quite feasible. rack still needs to go in, and the camry needs to go away from the dealership but not away to the junkyard because we're trying to part it out. no sense in junking what might make us some money back to defray costs. :p

    and we're leaving town at the end of the week. so as i said multiple times before... GAH.
     
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    it liiiiiiives!!!! [​IMG]

    pictures coming when i have time to put them up, which may be a while!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galaxee @ Jul 19 2007, 11:15 AM) [snapback]481583[/snapback]</div>
    Yeah! Congrats!
     
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    plans cancelled on me tonight, DH is out, i have some peace and quiet... so what else did i do but get comfy and upload pictures. :p here's an abbreviated overview of the rest of the process:

    camry with engine.
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    camry and engine, separated.
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    recipient, donor, and engine in question.
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    engines side by side, after swapping wiring harnesses, intake manifolds and front valve covers- the one on the left is the bad one.
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    engine dropping in
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    engine hanging by a couple motor mounts and the bar
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    enter the transmission
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    ready for the first drive around the block
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    whew!!! got all that and cleanup done just in time to walk out the door, LITERALLY.

    and the cause of the knock in the old engine: a rod bearing. the thing was toast anyway, the block was a real mess. he saved the heads, and the rod bearing for amusement value of course.

    needs some suspension work eventually and a couple other minor things, but otherwise it runs really well :D shame we had to leave it right away.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Jun 28 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]469825[/snapback]</div>
    That generation (being the first) ES was the most similar to the Camry out of all of them, nowadays they cars only share about 20% of their components. The Lexus also had a better warranty when new, better trim, more features, and of course Lexus dealer service.

    Congrats Galaxee, you and your DH should join the Lexus club I manage, us.lexusownersclub.com. Not many 250 owners, but there are a few.
     
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    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    i actually did put up one post over there in your es forum, SW03ES. i used a different handle :)

    well now that DH is driving it a lot, we find it really needs struts, springs, and all that other suspension crap. i am *not* amused.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galaxee @ Aug 3 2007, 08:56 PM) [snapback]490271[/snapback]</div>
    Are these things you can cannibalize from the old Camry? If not, how much more expensive. Seems like you'll still be ahead seeing as you've now got a running Lexus instead of a crunched Camry. And I'll be selling the Camry parts, even on eBay, will cover the struts, springs et al. There's always someone looking for a visor, mirror, seat, carpet, radio, hubcap, etc. I imagine you can sell the glass too. Of course big parts locally but small stuff you can ship anywhere.

    Wish I could luck into a black rear bumper cover. They're too big and too expensive to ship.
     
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    nah, the camry's are shot too. not as bad as the es but that car bottomed out on nearly everything. the es is scary to drive around curves. we're looking at $800 in parts- not cool. <_<

    so far we've had promising offers for doors, hood, headlights, etc that have fallen through. we're not even asking much for any of it, but when people are selling whole camrys for parts cars for $250, well, we can't match that. we can only keep the camry for a couple months, so i will probably have to start listing on ebay to sell stuff.

    have been keeping eyes out for a cheap camry with bad transmission, since we do have the extra trans... but so far no luck. that would set us even on the whole experience.

    but at least we're not racking up huge miles on the prius anymore.
     
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    What's your handle on the LOC? The site's down so I can't go figure it out lol.

    Post around on there, there are a lot of sources people have for parts. All the Camry stuff should work. Look for a guy named "Toysrme" and ask him, he'll know where to find you parts.
     
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    we're going the oem route with the exception of the struts, which we found on ebay for $70 for the set incl shipping. reasonable strut options for the 2g camry/es250 are pretty limited anyway. we're going a/m on those because they're insane even with employee discount through the dealer.

    there's a reason we're going oem. a/m strut mounts crapped out on our 88 camry in under a year, so if we're gonna do the work we would rather do the job right once. otherwise it's cheap out now, pay the price again later and spend the time and labor, which is worth as much as money to us we learned our lesson back in '03 on that one.

    labor/time/physical comfort is at such a premium for us right now... if he's gonna rip the whole thing apart he's only gonna do it once.
     
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    Oh you're absolutely better off going OEM, I agree.
     
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    DH had a back procedure done a couple weeks ago (discogram, highly painful) and spent a lot of time laying down since. he's finally cleared to go back to work so the project is up and running again.

    OEM parts.
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    gabriel guardian struts.
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    one front and one rear strut assembled.
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    two of the struts were bad, unfortunately. he discovered this on monday evening. i called up the place we bought the struts on tuesday afternoon, the guy there was really nice. said he would double check the struts personally before they went out. this morning i received a ship notification with an anticipated delivery date of friday. so these guys are good to deal with and have really good prices- cerell distributing company known on ebay as "stocklifts"

    anyway, hopefully this will be done on saturday then, and since the brake line needs to be disconnected we're gonna flush the brakes too.