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Can a Prius be stolen?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by jamarimutt, Jul 13, 2004.

  1. AlphaTeam

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    How much are the extra key fobs?

    As I'm learning from with this and any new car I guess its expensive.

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    I think you will find its 5 keys not four, at least it is in the EU.
    :lol:

    If you loose all the fobs, then you need to get the ECU replaced. When itsa replaced, it will go into an autoprogram mode which will allow the dealer to program it with upto 5 keys.

    I have a technical description -> Here <- if your interested.
     
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    GREAT information (and web site), Victor! Thanks!

    So, if you had a new or "blank" fob (and you hadn't already used up your quota of extra key fobs), you could use these steps to program it to work with your car? Without a dealer?
     
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    Was reading a later post which provides a link to programming new/additional key fobs. Part way down the link, it talks about deleting keys from the ECU. Thus, as long as a master key still exists, lost keys can be removed from the ECU memory and replaced with new keys without having to replace the ECU.
     
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    Master key? Does this means that not all keyfobs are the same and there are master keyfobs and non-master keyfobs? Or is any programmed keyfob a master keyfob? I'd like to read the link myself which may answer my questions, but it seems that it is broken (I don't know if temporarily or permanently).
     
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    Any keyfob is a master key. By master, they just mean one that's already associated with the car.

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  7. DanMan32

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    With the classic there used to be a distinction between a master key and a slave key. Slave keys could not allow programming of additional keys.

    Gen 2 does not have that distinction.
    I think only SKS models can have up to 5 fobs registered, though I don't understand why the distinction. Same transponder ECU, I would think.
     
  8. Tideland Prius

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    Well, there's usually 2 masters and one valet key. Black = master, grey = valet (For Toyotas anyway). Older models don't have the grey key but rather I think it's a generic looking key. Can anyone confirm this?
     
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    Sometimes cars with regular keys have a master key that works the whole car, and a valet key that works the ignition and the doors but not the trunk. That way the valet can steal your car but he can't get at the million dollars in gold bullion you keep in the trunk for traction in snowstorms.
     
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    :rofl: The 2nd generation doesn't have those distinctions though.
     
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    You mean Toyota no longer includes gold bullion standard for help with traction? That's a disappointment! I was counting on it for financial emergencies.
     
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    I suppose you missed the posts about the traction control causing problems. Sorry, no bullion, no slave fob, no slave key (unless you consider the manual key a slave key)
     
  13. Tideland Prius

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    What you said is exactly what I mean =) Assuming you locked the rear seats so they can't fold it down and locked the trunk in a way that the internal release handle is disabled.