Car hit while stationary, does severe tire slant = bent axle?

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  1. Thane

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    my 2004 was involved in a hit and run accident the other night. I came out of the apartment to find it like this. The car seems to have been hit square in the driver side quarter panel. The rear doors still operate as normal and the rear hatch just scrapes the tail lamp just a bit but seems normal otherwise. What worries me is the passenger side rear tire. You can see it looks slanted and it appears the passenger side wheel got wedged up against the curb. The wheel and the hub are parallel. Does the entire rear axle needs replacing? Can the axle be straightened? Could it be possible that the suspension just got tweaked in some way to look like that? I haven't tried driving it yet.

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    If insurance is involved I would leave it there until it is inspected. If not, perhaps drive it ahead a car length or so, moving it away from the curb carefully as you do so. Then see if it still looks the same or if it straightened out. It looks like the right rear is against the curb so the mag wheel might get scraped a bit if it is moved. All you can do is use your best judgement.
     
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    From the picture it looks like the axle is bent. Axle beam can’t really be straightened.

    Axle beam might be bent from the other side as well as that’s where the other car hit. Rear wheel bearings might also be damaged when this happened, so probably the cheapest fix is to get used axle from a junkyard with bearings still attached to it. Also you might have some damage to the fuel filler neck. That would cause fault code and check engine light. Fixing the body damage (really just cosmetic) is pretty expensive as that’s not an easy area to fix. And you do need a new tail light as well.

    So if you can, using insurance might be a good option…
     
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    Jack it up and see what springs loose, the car got pushed into the curb, it might be stress that is relieved when you jack it up, I wouldn’t move it, I’d jack it first.
     
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    That amount of damage on a 2004 is a total loss.

    Good Luck!
     
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    If insurance....let them handle...yes may be a total loss.
    (Start looking for a like vehicle to establish value.)

    If no insurance...do not straighten axle, or cross bar IMO.
    First step is to get the car in the air, Remove all the rear suspension, Professionally measure the frame.
    Then begin repair analysis from there.That's how I would "attack" it.
    Then you have the visual - quarter panel replacement, bumper and color match to deal with.
    Also I believe this repair - just suspension portion - will take more than a weekend if DIYing.
    Lastly, even with used parts and hammers I think you are into this $2000.

    Good luck.
     
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    Thanks very much for all the advice. I was switching insurance since Gieco almost doubled my rates slowly over 8 years without notifying me despite no accidents or tickets. Unfortunately i took my time getting new insurance since i had no need for the car and i didn't have it when this happened. I could do this myself but i'd have to do it on the street if i did so i think i will just take it in. Thanks again.
     
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    If it didn't rain recently, looks like a lot of fluid was spilled. The axle might be too bent to repair. Who knows what other damage might be lurking behind that wheel?

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    I took a very similar hit, on our 2010, same corner. Rear axle beam had to be replaced (insurance payed for new). You wouldn't know anything had happen now, full insurance job, bottom line in Canadian dollars: $6700.
     
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    Appreciate it's a different gen, but maybe this'll give some idea of scope. Wheel was ok btw.

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    Oh thanks, ill have a look at those. I had a look underneath the car and just to replace the rear axle beam looks super easy. I mean there is only 6 connections to the frame total and they are all small'ish sized bolts and two of those are just the struts connections, just need a strut spring compressor for those. The hardest part looks like all the little brake line fluid connections, not sure how that'll be working with with all electronics. I have bled brakes once before, but with an old 1979 Olds.
     
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    No you don’t need a spring compressor to replace the axle beam.

    But if you have to open the brake line you do need a computer with techstream software. You can’t bleed the brake the traditional way as they are not directly connected to brake pedal.
     
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    Brake bleeding is a bit more complicated on a Prius, than with your 1979 Olds. Do a search and you will find some good information on that on this forum. Sounds like you have a project on your hands, probably not what the plans were to end 2017. Best Wishes for a new and improved 2018.
     
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    Thanks valde3, no compressor needed, great. Thanks scona, will do a search.

    Its pretty funny, my investigation into techstream software started me off at a $1,300 proposition and ended up and $20, or even less, from Ebay, new. More research needed.
     
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    If your wheel is slanted, probably need replacement bearing on that side, if even just to be on safe side.
    If it's similar to third gen, the axle has two arms going forward, that connect with some serious bolts with bushings. Also, you'll very likely need to replace the wheel bearing on the hit side, and transfer the bearing from the other side. Or just get two new? New of the aforementioned bushings too?

    I'll attach 3rd gen rear axle replacement, just to get a feel for what's involved. I'm definitely a lightweight, would never even consider doing this myself, lol. Especially with all the bodywork needing repair as well, it'd be pros all the way for me.
     

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    Here’s the manual for gen 2: http://www.selidori.com/tech/00000-04999/261-0yKYe.pdf

    Probably best to get a used axle beam with bearings as they might have been damaged as well.

    Unfortunately you do need to open the rear brake line while doing this so you need a techstream to bleed the brakes after the work as the brakes in a Prius are not directly connected to brake pedal.
     
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