CARB warranty - Does it mean anything anymore?

I think it matters a little to PHEV and BEV owners.....

 

What year Prius are you asking about? Newer Prius still have this coverage in CARB states.

 

In the past, a Prius purchased in a non-CARB state wouldn't get the CARB warranty when moved to a CARB state. Even though there is no CARB and federal version of the car. It was just to save Toyota on warranty claims. The question is whether that is still the case.

 

Significant difference.
See Toyota.com.
Too involved for 3 word summary.

Example:
https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/omms-s/T-MMS-22PriusPHV/pdf/T-MMS-22PriusPHV.pdf

 

For Example:










See Toyota.com for details.
I don't think people want the 60+ page Warranty guide to be plastered in a thread.

 

I am not a lawyer.
I'm a geek researcher/engineer/geek/geek, and geek.
However, for the past zillion years, I've been reading and writing technical papers.


So, some notes:
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A)
For non-CARB states, the battery warranty is 10 years or 150K miles, whichever comes first.
For CARB states, the battery warranty is 15 years or 150K miles, whichever comes first.

B)
A number of times in the document:
Vehicles equipped with a California Certified Emission Control System that are registered and operated in California or any state that adopts California emission warranty provisions are covered by this warranty.
Currently, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington are the other states to which this warranty applies.
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If a vehicle is purchased in a non-CARB state, then the vehicle may not have a California Certified Emission Control System.
Even though the vehicle/design is 100% the same, that does not guarantee that every vehicle has a California Certified Emission Control System.

All parts have tolerances.
To be a California Certified system, it could very likely require additional emissions testing at the factory.
That would a greater number of expensive test stations, and a longer length of time to test. Time is money.

Fwiw, for Toyota, they have a "any vehicle" in the assembly line process.
So, the assembly line can be Rav4, Prius, Prius, Camry, and so on.
Plus, Toyota sells by their reputation for quality. Heck, by a Honda, they're cheaper. What, you like to waste money?
So, unlike GM, Ford, MB, BMW, VW, etc, I would not be surprised if Toyota did go that extra step. However, that does not mean that Toyota actually did go that extra step. Just that I would not be surprised.


Good Luck to all!

 

The emissions get certified when the car model is certified to be sold in the country or state.

Cars get an EPA engine that is on one of those stickers under the hood. It can also be found on the Fueleconomy.gov listing under energy and environment when you select a state. For Alabama and California, the Rav4 Prime has the same engine code, which means it's the same engine and emission systems.

With the emission standards being very close, and the power loss of conforming to CARB emissions gone, very few cars had a separate CARB and federal version these days. A manufacturer could choose to certify to a lower standard for federal states, in order to reduce warranty fees, but the car is still as clean as the CARB model.

 

Pretty sure that would get them in trouble if they didn't also certify the car has having a different emission system for the different sticker with the EPA. GM mislabeled one of the EPA stickers in my Sonic's engine bay. They had to do a recall, and mail out correct stickers to owners, and the owners could take it to a dealer if they weren't comfortable doing it themselves.

 

See:

Code:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh1HJ2xG3dI

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