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Change filter; Not oil?

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  1. Stevewoods

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    O.K.: I know I am overthinking this, but wife has a new car. The dealer will do the first five oil changes for "free," every six months or 6,000 miles. That is exactly in line with the automaker's fiat.

    Fine, I guess. But, I am old school. And I have read plenty of forums where people say breaking in a car is not what it used to be -- in other words don't bother changing the oil early.

    But....what if I sneak out one night and just change the filter -- I want to do it at 1,000 miles. That will make me feel better. As far as I can tell, reading lots of BITOG posts, the worst it will do is waste $8 and 10 minutes of time. I figure the filter has caught any and all of the "sluff" that may have come loose from the new engine.

    Of course, I would top up oil afterward, as needed.
     
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    i agree, but because the prius is 10k, i did the first at 5k, oil and filter. mfg's don't have longevity in mind, and dealers are clueless
     
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    If you are going to change the filter at 1k miles I would change the oil at the same time.

    If I were going to do just one of the two early I would change the oil and leave the filter. In fact you can get a 7 liter hand operated vacuum canister and suck out the oil from the dipstick. No under the car activity and the vacuum approach will often remove more oil than a gravity drain, believe it or not.

    This is the unit I have. It works similar to a pump up sprayer except it creates a vacuum in the canister which draws up oil for a few minutes before you pump again. You stay clean the whole time.

     
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    Yes. But I would do NEITHER.
    I would consider having the first one done at half the standard recommendation, whatever that is.

    Oil filters have maybe 5X excess capacity for filtering.
    And once particles are trapped they STAY trapped.

    There is absolutely, positively NO good reason to do that.......except paranoia.
     
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    wait, i thought you were out?(n)
     
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    Separating the wheat from the chaff.

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    OK -- almost got me, but the oil extractor....just slide it over the oil dipstick tube? Seems too easy....
     
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    You put the tube into the dipstick tube and push it in to bottom of the pan.
     
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    Most manufacturers have power train warranty's that go a few years beyond the bumper to bumper one that they don't want paying out claims on.

    Putting a fresh oil filter on can take degraded oil out of suspension. That degraded material is what causes the oil to darken over time. There isn't going to be much of it in oil that is 1000 miles old. If there is, there are bigger problems.

    The technology for making cars has advanced with the technology in the cars. The days of the engines doing the final milling and polishing of parts is long past. The low friction coatings and polishes now used on some car parts would be ruined by such a process.
     
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    Second this.
     
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