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Changing ICE Coolant, HV inverter coolant

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by tmorrowus, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. tmorrowus

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    I just passed 150k miles in my 2004 Prius, and I think it's a good idea to change the ICE coolant (last changed 90k), and HV inverter coolant (last changed 90k). I already changed the auto transmission fluid.

    I just moved from the San Francisco area where I had Luscious garage do stuff like this to a small town in Arizona (Prescott) where the local Toyota dealer seems to know they have a monopoly. When I had them change the auto transmission fluid, the service manager attempted to defend the high price ($180) by saying that I might be comparing a complete flush versus a simple replacement of the fluid. He said flush might take 12 containers of fluid whereas the replacement might only take 5. When I later noted that the service report from his garage said they only used 5 containers, he quickly said "Hmm that is interesting", and brushed me off.

    I'm going to look around for independent garages to do the ICE and HV coolants. So now I'm thinking about whether I should be asking for a complete flush or just a simple replacement. Or is that just some BS that I don't have to worry about?

    The Toyota dealer wanted $159 for each of those two fluid changes, and $189 for changing spark plugs. I'm considering doing the spark plugs myself, but don't want to mess around with fluids, so I'm curious to hear ballparks for people who got good prices on those.
     
  2. bisco

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    there are no flushes on the prius, just wallet flushes of their owners.:cool:
     
  3. Patrick Wong

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    1. The Toyota Super Long Life Coolant should be replaced at 50K mile intervals, after the original factory fill coolant is replaced. So your car actually is a bit past-due.

    2. It is not a good idea to use an independent garage that does not characterize itself as a Toyota hybrid specialist. It is too easy to leave air in the engine coolant loop, even some Toyota dealer service techs have done that, based upon PC posts. The inverter coolant loop is fairly easy to drain and replace.

    3. If you can replace the iridium spark plugs, you can change the engine and inverter coolant fluids. Ten years ago, I posted on how to correctly change the engine coolant and get air out of the system. See my posts 22 and 42 here:
    Changing engine coolant | Page 2 | PriusChat
     
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    Demand a refund from the Toyota service department. 1) They charged you for a conventional automatic transmission fluid flush that would likely require 8-12quarts of ATF-WS due to the torque converter. 2) The ding-dong tech spilled a f'n quart. He should have used 3.8 quarts MAX!

    SURPRISE. The Prius has a TRANSAXLE (think transmission, but NO torque converter). The fluid capacity of the transaxle is just under 4quarts. It is a simple DRAIN and FILL. Just think of the rear center differential on a truck axle; a drain bolt on the bottom, and a fill bolt 90deg on a vertical face. The Prius transaxle has a near identical set-up.

    The Toyota Factory Service manual says DRAIN and FILL too!

    Earn your manliness badge. Do the coolant drain/fill of both loops (engine & Inverter).
     
  5. Mendel Leisk

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    I'm not sure why even a conventional automatic would need a flush, basically multiple drain-and-fill. Our daughter's Pilot for example, periodically calls for a transmission fluid change. It states in the Shop Manual that a dry transmission will take about 8.1 liters, and a drain-and-fill will involve only about 3.4 liters. But that's still all it recommends, a single drain-and-fill. The engineers appreciate you're not changing anywhere near all the fluid, but they're ok with periodic replacement of about 40%.

    The only time I would recommend a multiple drain-and-fill is in the case of contamination, say you have a brain fart and poured in some motor oil. I believe I've seen that in one of my Honda Shop Manuals. In that case they called for a drain-and-fill, drive it around the block, then repeat, something like two or three times more.

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