Christian activists disrupt Hindu prayer in US Senate

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(formerVWdriver @ Jul 16 2007, 10:16 AM) [snapback]479585[/snapback]</div>

Looks to me like you got the sitting around measuring and judging others down pat. I'm glad I'm not you!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Jul 16 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]479615[/snapback]</div>

vwdriver; get it right, I mean left, they can't be miserable. Not when sitting in their own little happy places, the judging & casting lots is just their way of passing the time..

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Jul 16 2007, 11:56 AM) [snapback]479615[/snapback]</div>

Is noticing that some folks are sitting around measuring and judging the same as sitting around measuring and judging?

I'm glad you're not me, too. You'd make a lousy me, just as I'd make a lousy you. Sometimes I make a lousy me, but since you seem to believe that measuring behavior is evil, you might find introspection and change uncomfortable.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rae Vynn @ Jul 16 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]479602[/snapback]</div>

You named your car after one of the huckstable children, you seem to think we care about your floor mats and you have a bolded Go Vegan license plate holder. Oooh.. I forgot, you have a PriusChat sticker on order. Please let us know when that gets in.

What did we miss?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FiftyOneMPG @ Jul 16 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]479650[/snapback]</div>

Rudy is not named after a TV character.
Thanks for reminding me, the sticker arrived.
wow, you are a bitter one, huh?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(formerVWdriver @ Jul 16 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]479644[/snapback]</div>

Nope. Which is why I could help notice you were sitting around measuring and judging "the non-Christians on this thread."

Nope, nothing wrong with measuring behavior. But I remember reading something in a book somewhere about the first person to cast a stone should be someone without sin; you'd hate this book, since they also say people shouldn't complain about sawdust in someone else's eye when there's a plank in theirs.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hycamguy07 @ Jul 16 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]479620[/snapback]</div>

As opposed to you, who shows absolutely NO judging and casting lots in the above quote, uh-uh, no sir!

 

...it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg
Thomas Jefferson

 

I think it's really the double standard of the whole thing that irritates me. Had it been reversed i.e. hindu or Sikh extremists interupting a Christian invocation, there would have been a huge outcry. In fact, they probably would have ended in jail as possible terrorists.

There is an insistence that "this is a nation founded on Christian principles" as an excuse for denying fairness to other beliefs.

Why is it that the Christian reilgion requres special protection from the government? Can't the teachings of Christ stand on their own, in even competition with other beliefs? How is it harmful for a Christian to listen to another's prayer or reilgious ceremony, rather than shouting it down?

Let all beliefs stand equally - either no religion at all mentioned in government, or all religions given equal time. If there is true power in the teachings, they will rise to the top on their own, without state sponsorship.

 

Why do you care that Christian's shouted at the Hindu prayer? Why is this news.. would it be news if an atheiest shouted at a muslim prayer?

Just yankin on the Christian for having done it, making it a bigger issue in the media than it should be.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mad Hatter @ Jul 16 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]479892[/snapback]</div>

Now that's just crazy talk!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FiftyOneMPG @ Jul 17 2007, 09:00 AM) [snapback]480179[/snapback]</div>

Why is it news? Because they disrupted Senate proceedings while the media was there. I'll agree that an atheist shouting down a Muslim wouldn't get as much play.

If it had been a Christian being shouted down, would you be asking why it's news? I think not. Your suggestion that the media is "just yankin' on the Christian" indicates that you'd probably be up in arms.

As Mad hatter said, it had been Hindus shouting down a Christian, you can bet your bippy that it would have received more press. And talking heads from coast-to-coast would be flapping their gums about a non-existent war on Christianity.

 

Nope... If it were anyone shouting at the Christian prayer, they wouldn't have stopped or even had notice. The person would have been escorted out without any mention in the press just like people are removed from the chambers all the time without mention. Nobody would have even realized that the shouter was hindu, or whatever other religion because they wouldn't have even realized it was the prayer that was the problem, just some nutjob yelling out when they shouldn't be.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FiftyOneMPG @ Jul 17 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]480242[/snapback]</div>

I respectfully disagree. O'Reilly, Hannity & Limbaugh would be all over such an incident like white on rice. They'd do just what they do during December of every year ... play it up as a war on Christianity.

Personally, I don't think the nutjobs that shouted the other day should get any more press. They're not representative of their religion as a whole.

However, the reason they've gotten the press is that they are representative of an increasingly more vocal segment of Christianity that is intolerant of other religious views ... even within Christianity itself.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Jul 15 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]479373[/snapback]</div>

Nicely put, I really like that!!!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Proco @ Jul 17 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]480185[/snapback]</div>

I didn't believe there was a war on Christianity until I started hanging around on PriusChat.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Jul 16 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]479704[/snapback]</div>

Oh well you caught me, however casting lots would be fun if you had somthing i wanted but you dont..

On prius chat alone, take a look in the arkives at the religious threads, there seems to be 90% against religion and 10% for religion. starting a religious thread is like telling the villagers where the witches are so they can have a stake burning party...

If they where as passionate towards enviromental issues as they are towards abolishing religion or rechanneling their hot air from bush, just think of the utopia we would be living in..... B)

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(formerVWdriver @ Jul 17 2007, 09:14 AM) [snapback]480268[/snapback]</div>

Hmm... I think that's a bit unfair. There do seem to ba a couple of die-hard, religion is poison types (Like the Chaiman Mao reference?), but speaking for myself at least, I have a heartfelt respect for Christian teachings. While I choose not to be a practicing Christian, mostly because I cannot wrap my mind or heart around John 14:6, I do have a deep and profound respect for many of the values taught by the church. I think that it is this same problem with John 14:6 that leads me to my other belief that NO religion should be given preference. As I posted above, let the teachings stand on their merits - if there is real power in them they will rise to the top on their own without state sponsorship or protection. I really don't care which method of equal treatment is used - either exclude them all from anything government sponsored, or give them all equal time, either one is fine with me.

Of course, there is always the slippery slope of "What is a religion." I'm certainly not a fan of giving Xenu equal time, and even LDS seems a bit cultish to me, though I give them credit for trying real hard and having lots of members. I've got it! Make me the supreme arbiter!! BWAA HAA HAA!!!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pyccku @ Jul 14 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]478577[/snapback]</div>

Oy!!!

These "Christians" claim to know so much about U.S. history and the facts about our forefathers. Obviosuly they never heard about the Treaty of Tripoli enacted by the first congress and George Washington in the late 1790's. In that treaty, Article 11 plainly states that the United States WAS NOT founded on Chirsitan values. I loath ignorance from people who claim to know everything!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

 

"On prius chat alone, take a look in the arkives at the religious threads, there seems to be 90% against religion and 10% for religion. starting a religious thread is like telling the villagers where the witches are so they can have a stake burning party..."

That's a complete misrepresentation.
Most of the so called 90% non-religious replies are NOT saying "down with religion!" and you know it! They are engaging in a debate about why they feel the way they do, and most acknowledge that there is FAR more good done by religious organizations than bad.

There are only a select couple of people who feel religion is evil and want to see it abolished. (IE: the sig "we will not be free till the last king is strangles by the entrails of the last priest").

Please don't lump ALL the rest of us non-religious (or non-practicing) with the fanatic wing of athiests. And in return, we will not lump YOU in with the fanatic wing of Christians.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darwood @ Jul 17 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]480395[/snapback]</div>

I'm not non-religious, I'm just not a christian.
I used to be one.
Couldn't stand the hypocrisy, judgementalism, and the demonization of every other belief on the planet.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rae Vynn @ Jul 17 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]480410[/snapback]</div>

That would put you in the non-practicing group. I would guess that, although you grew unhappy of the above mentioned problems with religion, you do not seek the collapse of religious organizations and recognize that it has some merits despite it's problems. Am I correct?