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Code P0aa6 info codes 526, 613 - Transaxle Replacement Question

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  1. anniika

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    I'm getting conflicting information from my mechanic vs the Toyota dealership, and I'm looking for some other input/advice/opinion.

    The master warning light came on in my 2009 Prius (133,000 miles). It was towed to my mechanic who advised me it was a P0aa6 code, and said it should be covered by Toyota SB 0306-08, with replacement of the transmission for up to 10 yrs/150,000 miles. (I am a PA resident; see: TSB 0306-08 vs. TSB EG045-06 60K vs. 150K warranty? | PriusChat)

    It was towed to the dealer, who advised me that for $375 they could verify if it was covered, as they would need to perform additional diagnostics. The outcome of the additional testing by the dealer was they determined it was P0AA6 codes with info codes of 526 and 613 that required a transaxle replacement. They also told me it was not covered by the service bulletin and quoted a price of $5,000.

    My mechanic told me that it should be covered, even though apparently the service bulletin specifies 2004-2008, and my car is 60 days beyond this window. He recommended I call Toyota customer service directly and "pitch a fit." He said he would be happy to talk to them for me.

    I called Toyota Customer Service myself this morning, figuring that it couldn't be that hard, but I didn't get much further than opening a case # and being told repeatedly that "there is no extended service associated with that VIN." I was also advised that if 2009 is added to the extended warranty coverage years, and I had the work done by the dealership, I would be eligible for a reimbursement.

    What is a reasonable course of action here? Is this a documented, known problem I should be asking Toyota to resolve (as my mechanic says) or is this a case of bad luck, as the dealer says? I would be very grateful for any opinions or suggestions.
     
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    judging by the very few cases we've seen here, i would say bad luck. your best bet might be to look for a low mile salvage unit.
     
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    Has the transaxle fluid ever been replaced ?
     
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    Replaced at 60,000 miles.
     
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    Has the engine area been washed lately? I've seen connectors get water inside from a pressure washing. Took the connectors apart and sprayed with contact cleaner and dried with compressed air. No more lights or codes!
     
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    The reason your vehicle is not covered is that it was produced well AFTER the improved parts were placed into production vehicles. There are almost always more than one CAUSE of a complaint, issue or fault code. I can only presume that: a) Toyota fixed the issue addressed in the referenced TSBs and b) the parts in your vehicle already have the improved components and c) the fault(s) you have do not match those outlined in the TSB EXACTLY and d) some other cause is responsible for the fault(s) the dealer found.

    As others have suggested, water intrusion from engine washing or even energetic road spray can potentially cause this situation, none of which are warrantable causes.
     
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    Unfortunately, no engine washing, no car washing, not even any rain for a few weeks. The dealer said they checked the wiring, and the wiring wasn't the problem. I don't know if they did the additional cleaning/drying you recommend. I can ask.
     
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    I feel your pain.
    I had an issue with one of my other Toyotas that fit the description for a TSB repair but my dealer said my VIN was not within the covered range. I had a private garage fix it.
    You have fewer choices with hybrids though.
     
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    Thanks for the input.
     
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    I'm wondering if your car has an axle seal leak, leaked out some fluid
     
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    pleasure.
     
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    I'm wondering if I should I be looking for a cheaper repair, pay the $5,000 at the dealership, or invest in a new car? This car has had decent care, and I really haven't spent any money to speak of on repairs before this. But it does have 133K on it.
     
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    My mechanic sent me this post: Gen 2 Prius (2004-2009) Transmission Failure, P0AA6, P0A92, P0A7A - Luscious Garage | Hybrid Specialists which does make it seem like a known issue for 2004-2009 models. However, in PA it's only covered for 2004-2008. I really have no idea if it should be covered, but the bottom line is, in PA it is not covered. I talked to some guy who said he called Toyota CS every day for 6 months, and they did eventually cover his 2009, but I don't have the time or emotional fortitude to manage that.
     
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    ask your mechanic how much to put in a salvage unit. unfortunately, your hv battery will be next at some point.
     
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    No way would I spend $5000 at the dealership for a transmission. I would put a used one in it IF they can pinpoint the problem. A bad inverter could possibly make someone think they have transmission troubles. I had one that only gave me transmission fault codes. So I replaced the transmission. Then I got only inverter codes. I replaced the inverter and all was well. I'm not saying they transmission wasn't bad, but I never saw any inverter codes until after I changed the transmission. So much less money to install used parts from low mileage cars.
     
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    Just to clarify as the OP is a new PC member....

    Prii DO NOT have what is commonly thought of as a "transmission", there are no clutches and it cannot change gears, plus it is not a continuously variable transmission because there are no cones or belts. The transaxle uses two motors, MG1 and MG2 on either side of a fixed planetary gear to change road speed. The ratio of the speeds of MG1 and MG2 determine how fast and if the vehicle moves and in what direction.

    From what I have read, the most common transaxle fault relates to overcurrent or a voltage leak from damaged wiring in the outboard motor. Luscious garage has a video on this and while not an inexpensive repair, certainly lower cost than a new pack.
     
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    I know some folks think the Prius only has one speed=slow :p but the CVT acronym stands for continuously variable transmission. ;)
     
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    Yup, corrected.
     
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    Well, tomorrow's the big day. I got a salvage unit for $400 and a very reasonable estimate from a 2-person garage. I did pay an annoying $375 to have the dealership identify the problem as specifically the transaxle and not other possible causes. Fingers crossed! As a side note, I'm a nurse practitioner and see myself as practicing at the intersection of art and science, and it's been very interesting for me to get a sense of how car mechanics operate in a similar zone.
     
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