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Cost/hours to remove/replace/clean EGR cleaner/etc

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by TheLandYacht, Dec 6, 2020.

  1. TheLandYacht

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    I'll make sure he's aware of paying attention to the small egr passages. He's coming back on Friday to tackle that (looks like it'll stay apart til he's done).

    $325 for EGR & Intake manifold...and a leak-down test afterwards. I think I'm gettin my money's worth there to not have to get my hands dirty (much, I helped with cleaning the cooler...and boy was that nasty work).
     
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    Gonna have to wait on the Catch Can for another time, this used up all my ready-funds. But it definitely goes on the list.
     
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    There are torque values, and a LOT of tips, in aforementioned link. The "you don't have to spill coolant" tips in particular.
     
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    A bargain for sure!
     
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    The sand pounder though: DIY you can do this for the cost of a can of brake cleaner and a few spoonfuls of Oxi-Clean.

    Maybe next time. ;)
     
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    Nope, not physically capable anymore...even if I did trust myself around an engine for anything more complicated than an oil change.

    IF I could pull it off, what he performed in 3.5 hours today, would take me a week or more (15 minutes at a time). Heart & lungs won't let me exert for longer periods.

    It sucks gettin' old, man!
     
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    Ah, if you can change the oil you can handle this lol. I know, I know: don't know your circumstances, ok.
     
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    Meh, 75% of changing the oil is laying flat on your back.

    And no worries on beatin' that dead horse. I've done the same before.
     
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    What you should do is get some hose and adapters to plumb the pcv to the right side of the engine bay and back to the intake. Then its easy to add the catch can later. Otherwise you have to take off most of the same stuff again.
     
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    If I'm understanding you, I should get a couple of "T"s and a long piece of hose (and leave it intact until I actually get the Catch Can to install? That sounds do-able.

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    Nevermind, watching the NutzAboutBolts video.
     
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    Can you diagram where I'm supposed to T off of?

    EDIT:

    Nevermind, I'm in the process of watching the NutzAboutBolts video now.
     
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    Also read the oil catch can thread by @danlatu, linked in my aforementioned link.

    The usual drill is to cut the original PCV hose at the middle, push 3/8" brass hose barb splicers (or PEX connectors, easier if you want to pull it apart later, then push on 3/8" black rubber fuel line (SAE30R7, or R6), a generous amount for each, depending where you're going to locate the can. A trick I did with barb connectors (all I had) was to mount them in a drill press, then slightly blunt the barbs with a file as they spun. Oh, hose clamps are not really needed with barb connectors, may actually be detrimental.

    A lot are locating the can at the aforementioned front/left corner topside, but it's not the only location. Mine (2 in series) are mounted on a bracket atop the lower/front cross beam, hardly visible when you pop the hood, accessible mainly from below, while doing oil changes.
     
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    Intake & EGR cleaned, we're gonna have to wait til another time to do the leak-down test.

    Also didn't get the chance to do the prep-work for puttin in a catch-can...we simply ran out of time.

    Those'll go on the list (catch-can definitely, leak-down if symptoms persist).

    But I think (hope) after seeing the state that the EGR & Intake were in...that those were the crux of the problem.

    When I took the intake to the carwash to clean out, I ended up COVERED in a coating of particulate soot. and of course the EGR cooler was 100% clogged until I got it cleaned out.
     
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    Didn’t see you mention low on coolant so leak down wouldn’t be necessary. Looks like your way to trouble free car for many miles.
     
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    OK. Results time. Remember, 2010 Prius...130k(ish) miles.

    After the following steps:
    • Clean entire EGR system
    • Clean intake manifold & wipe out Throttle Body
    • Replace spark plugs (he said they looked "burnt"...I have a sneaky suspicion that they've never been changed)
    • Added about 1/2 gallon of coolant lost in the process of disconnecting hoses/etc

    I took it on a 10-mile test drive. Seems to be running just as good as before (remember the symptoms I was seeing were intermittent). Coolant temp (TorquePro) stays exactly where it was before. I SEEM to have gained 8mpg, but I know 10 miles isn't enough for the average MPG to steady out...every time you go up a hill or accelerate, you watch that number fluctuate.

    Anyway. Time will tell if this resolved the intermittent issue(s).

    Thanks to everyone for their help & advice through all of this.
     
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    Good outcome. (y)

    For next time: no need to spill any coolant, read that link I posted, post #6.
     
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    I see that (and will probably forget about it before this comes up again).

    Of note: "Generic" Asian Red coolant from NAPA is more red than pink, which concerned me (I poured some into a cup to compare them). But the NON-Generic version (Xerex) was exactly the same shade of pink as what was in the car (probably original fluid). Weird.

    Everything I could find said "don't mix red & pink" so I was panicking a bit, because NAPA was out of the Xerex, I had to go to the next town over to get the pink stuff from O'Reilly's.

    Coolant flush & refill is now on "The List" for some point in the future.
     
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    hang on, you did the impossible?:eek:
     
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    Just be thankful it is the coolant and not the transmission fluid;).

    That's an even worse day:cool:.

    We had that happen at a meetup:eek:.

    Caught the act as it was occurring before it got any further:).

    Measure twice and add once(y).
     
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    Toyota Super Long Life Coolant is readily available, guess where.