Dashboard summary: December 2015

lots of explorers and suburbans in our near future.

 

just as iran starts selling oil.

 

rav4, cr-v, escape, rogue, Cherokee, equanox, and explorer
led december SUV/crossover sales in that order. The cute utes are selling really well versus cars. Explorer is the best selling midsize, but cr-v beat it by 94K units in 2015. Those were the best sellers of the catagories.

 

crv's are like mosquito's, but less annoying.

 

i have been thinking about adult ed.

 

thanks, i wish. still, i like to think of myself as a progressive conservator.

 

I'm assuming you mean this?
Which? study reveals how some diesel cars emit up to 15 times the safe amount | Daily Mail Online
It could be the European version has different emissions controls. That study had 2011 cherokee, a diesel was not introduced to america on that model until 2014.

I'm not saying fiat chrysler may not be cheating like vw, but it is a sure thing that emissions controls are different on the US model than a 2011 UK model, that chyrsler did not sell in the US. It is well known that the european lab test is not anywhere close to real world testing that a lab may be doing.

 

Cool, that probably is more accurate for us emissions. It is much higher in NOx than gasoline, but no where near as high as the models shipped to england in 2011.

That methane looks wrong though, would think diesel would be much lower on methane than gasoline, as the fuel is much lower.
VW Diesel NOx Problem: So Tough Angela Merkel Complained About It (In 2010)

 

The Which? article came up in the VW cheating thread in the diesel section.

The EU test isn't reflective of how the cars are driven out on their roads. So a car can pass the test without doing anything illegal, and still emit high levels of NOx, or CO in the case of petrol cars, in the real world. A Lexus hybrid exceeded the CO limit by 4X.

 

It is also missing the cold temp test.

Which model is which?

 

Good point AG, but I am even stronger now on bad year for PHEV. The way the CA HOV works, the buyers have to keep their cars to keep the HOV stickers, so I presume that is a dis-incentive for HOV sticker holders to sell their car and get a new PHEV. They instead need to hold onto to current PHEV or trade up to BEV.

I really think CA needs to shift to Virginia-type system (HOV plates) so the owners can trade in their PHEV for another PHEV and still keep HOV. Therefore for CA to keep HOV incentive as a selling pressure for plug-ins, they really need to extend the benefit and encourage trade-in for new PHEV.

That's what we have in Virginia some folks got the best HOV plates thru July 2006, and now no one else can get it, but those orig owners have to keep buying new hybrids to keep their HOV plates. A retention bonus as it were!

 

Oldest phevs are only 5 years old, yes there is a disincentive to trade those in on a phev. Unless its a prius phv on something like a volt or an i3-rex with all those extra electric miles.

California like georgia incentivises bevs over phevs, but those incentives are rather large in you are not wealthy, $10,000 + HOV. CARB has decided they don't like PHEVs. So what. The PHEVs will sell in other states.

I don't really like the HOV incentive, so I will have to disagree here as well. Carb DOESN'T want to grandfather as you are suggesting, they want new sales. If plug-ins are traded in, then they are likely to get sold out of state on the used market in states where new incentives are lower. Texas gets a lot of used bevs from california

Sure if you want to reward early adopters and grandfather, but net number of plug-ins aren't helped by that system.

Texas wants to incentive and get people "hooked" on plug-in driving, then you need less incentives in the future. Different approaches.

I think california won't sell as many phevs as in 2014, but it will sell a lot more bevs. Prius phv, the second best selling phev in 2014 is gone. The volt, i3-rex, fusion and c-max energi, ioniq phev, outlander phev, a3 phev, etc should though sell well in states like colorado, texas, and florida which in my forecast will make it a better year for nationwide phev sales than last year. 2015 was a bad selling year. Its a fairly easy goal. Less than 50,000 phev were sold last year.

 

I don't like HOV incentives either. I suggest however CA HOV is single handedly why most plug-ins are selling. If true, it is a potential crisis to not have CA HOV incentives. How about like you only get 3-years HOV. So any new buyer can get in. Old buyers have to re-buy or lease to get back in.