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Dealer Damage Car - Advice Needed

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by sillylilwabbit, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. sillylilwabbit

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    ****EDIT: I didn't want to mention the dealership originally for obvious reasons, but seeing a few posts about assuming it is a Toyota dealer, I didn't want to giving that impression because I know if it was a Toyota dealer, I would be taken care of, however, this is not the case here.

    The dealer is Carmax and the car I bought was used: 2012 Blizzard Pearl Prius Plug In w/ approx 37k miles.

    Because it is Carmax, I very concerned as to how, who, is going to do the repair. (Also, while waiting to pick up my car, I observed the techs drive customer/dealer cars (?). One of them reversed a car fast and then put it into drive without coming to a full stop, and heard the tires "chirped" while the transmission transitioned from reverse to drive.).

    I don't know if I could trust Carmax after witnessing the way these techs drives customer/dealer cars and what what happened to my car.

    I am just very unhappy of how this situation came about and that I have to be inconvinced by taking time off work, drive to Carmax location and sit and wait (or does the car to left there for more than a day?, rental car if more than a day?) to get this resolved. I know I am no one special, but just don't feel that this incident should have even happened.


    This is why I am very concerned about taking it back and finding something else they did wrong or how my car will be treated.


    I know a prius is not some fancy car, but I bought and paid for it with my hard earned money.

    Sorry if the above sounds like a rant.


    *** End Edit***





    Long story short:

    About a month ago I went to the dealership to inspect a car I had transported from another state within the same deal ship franchise. Car was pretty much immaculate condition.

    I filled out dealership and other paperwork to have my car funded through a California agency that same day.

    It took about 1 month to get approved for funding. After receiving confirmation, I went to the dealership to pick up the car. While I was there, I asked if I can inspect the car once more and the make sure the charger cable was there (prius plug in).

    Upon inspection I see the car was damaged while sitting in the dealer lot within the month waiting to have my car funded. (Car was never in my possession during the month waiting for funding)

    (there was other damage, but when I came to the damaged area below, I was to focus on that to continue inspecting the car, I only noticed when I got home was pretty unhappy, but had already left the dealership, so my bringing it now would not believe able, which is understandable)

    See pic below. 1 is a large pic to give perspective of where the damage is and the closer is to see the actual damage:

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    Part of the damage was able to be buffed out, but there is damage that has deep scratches.

    The dealer tried to put white "touch up" paint on but it does not match, as my car is Blizzard Pearl.

    I had asked if I could go to a body shop and have the dealership pay for it. Dealership said they can do it on there own premises. They will have the correct paint mixed and I would have to come back to the dealership and they fix the scratches.

    So I took the car home on a "work release order" meaning, I take the car home and I bring it back to have it repaired.

    Now, the question: is this really fixable by the dealership? (I know a body shop can do it as it is their speciality).

    Or should I just leave the car the way it is now?

    Thanks for any advice or suggestions.


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  2. frodoz737

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    Assuming they are going to handle this, if they don't have their own body/paint shop, they will likely send it the the company they contract normally.
     
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    sounds right.
     
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    Anybody can have the skills to do anything.

    So is it fixable by the dealership? If they have the tools and somebody with the skills? Sure.- But I don't know that. Some dealerships do operate a body shop on the premises.

    I'm suspicious of their competency if only because you say they tried to use white touch up paint. I think anyone would know that wasn't going to be a very OEM repair.

    This is damage you discovered before taking possession. They are charged with fixing it. And not slap some white touch up paint on it either.

    I'd call Toyota Care, and start a case. At least report it. If the dealership has admitted the damage happened on their watch, then that damage should be repaired to your satisfaction. Can that happen at the dealership? I don't know, again it depends on the tools available and the personnel they might or might not have.

    I'd be suspicious that they are just trying to go cheap on the repair, again because they tried to placate you with a "touch up" paint repair.

    On the "positive" side? That damage really doesn't look too bad. Over time, you're probably going to get scuffs in that area anyway. As a brand new car I don't think you have reason to expect it, but if I had to live with it? I think I could.
     
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    Have him fix the car and you don't take it until it's done right make sure all the edges fit and looks just as good as the first time you saw itBecause if you're anything like me you will remember the day that you seen that car in that condition and how it looked the first time you saw the car and you're going to regret having not fixed it on their dime
     
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    A competent body shop could fix that completely seamlessly.

    A few decades back we bought a "new" car, eventually found one side had been completely repainted. And not just to blend the paint, there was mondo bondo, over coarse sanding. The car had apparently sideswiped a bollard at the dock. Paint pealing off was what caught my attention, started: thinking this isn't right.

    In the process of ditching this vehicle, it came to my attention that the typical BC new car sales contract contains a clause stating that the car can have body work amounting to 15% of the car's retail value, without it being disclosed.

    Now, this is just a contract, not the constitution. You're free (for example) to cross out "15% of the retail value", append it to read (say) "$200:. That's IF the dealership will sign-off on it.
     
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    Have faith in the dealer system, I'm sure you're not the first car they've damaged and you won't be the last!
     
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    In your situation I would not have accepted delivery. No "work release order".

    When I bought the 2010 (dealer trade) an employee chipped the hatch removing the other dealer's vinyl sticker. The sale took another week and I received the original "Prius" emblem, and the disclosure of the cost of the damage (by NJ law) as a souvenir.

    "New" means new. Fix the damage or we can discount the price. Hold the customer satisfaction survey until you are satisfied. When the car comes out of the shop you won't be able to tell the difference. Schedule a Prius loaner for the day or two it is in the shop.

    As JC said, it isn't the first car damaged in the delivery process and it won't be the last. That much touch paint isn't going to blend. The color doesn't matter.
     
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    This was a NEW CAR purchase?
     
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    If you say the dealer will fix it, let them do it. It's in an area that would be very simple to repair. There are bumper repair specialists that do that kind of repair all the time.
     
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    They should sub it to an accredited body shop, who'll sand it down properly, use spray guns, and blend it out. They likely have a shop they work with. If they insist on say their mechanic is going to fix it with a touchup paint brush, I'd refuse. What is gonna be tough to deal with is the bare black plastic scuffing, you may just have to live with that. Maybe a heat gun and brush could do something?

    I guess just put them on notice up front, that you are not going to be satisfied with less than body shop quality repair, so you you're not going round and round.
     
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    I work at a dealership, they likely have a guy that comes in a few days a week to paint bumpers on the side of the building. If they have a good painter it will look brand new but, since its not factory it will show its age in 3 years or so. Of course this time its free, but if you were to have to do it in the future when/if it fades, it will run about $150 if they don't mark it up.
     
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    I edited the post because I didn't want people to think I got it from a trust worthy Toyota dealer. If it was a Toyota dealer, I wouldn't mind trusting them w/ my car.

    I think some of your advice(s)/opinions would change if you knew the name of the dealer.

    Sorry for not disclosing the name of the dealer earlier.

    The dealer is ****Carmax****

    Thank you everybody who have so far chimed in with their opinions, it is really appreciated.


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    Burna J Knot Right Performance....

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    That's sucks @sillylilwabbit. I wouldn't want their monkeys working on my car and making it worst.... :mad:
    I'd just cover it up with a Prius Plus body kit. (y)
     
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    Well that changes everything.
    I assumed you were talking about a new car and a Toyota Dealership. Or even any new vehicle dealership.

    Good Luck.

    I'd take solace in the fact that I don't think it looks too bad anyway.
    That's a pretty common area to become scratched.

    So any repair is an improvement assuming they don't make it look some how "worse".
     
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    What was the price of the car anyways?
     
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    Exactly the way I feel.


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    $14,998 plus TTL, etc., but if figure in calif incentives, approx $5,000, plus ttl, and a long list of fees.


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    I assume this "painter" didn't add clear coat? Thx


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    My 2 cents is this....

    If the place orally assures you that their repair will look as good as if a Toyota shop did it and understands that if it doesn't match or looks bad, Toyota will redo it AT THEIR COST, let them do the job. You took photos (smart move).

    Odds are it will be fine. By asking (and getting their assurance up front), they have the ability to shift the work elsewhere if they feel they might not be able to do it right. Paint codes are not proprietary (by and large), so any shop can get the correct paint.

    DO have a talk with the manager in charge about what you saw regarding how techs were driving on the lot. Every vehicle should be treated as precious cargo...even if they are in a rush. Let him know that if you saw them handling your car that way, you 'd be very upset...especially if it developed problems later. I knew a guy with a new Corvette who went to Wal Mart for tires, and the tech did a burnout in the parking lot. Needless to say, Wal Mart had an insurance claim opened that day an the tech was fired on the spot.
     
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    Carmax is a big company and I can assure you this is not the first time this has happened. Just get everything in writing and you should be fine.
     
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    Even with paint codes, it's technique that produces a seamless paint job. Specifically: blending, where the newly painted zone feathers out to clear. Done well you can't tell.