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Don't update Windows 10 today

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by hkmb, May 22, 2018.

  1. hkmb

    hkmb Senior Member

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    My Windows 10 computer has just updated itself (May 23 Australian time). Now it's caught in a feeback loop, and won't restart. I'm writing this on my spare Windows 8 computer.

    I'm on the phone to Microsoft now, and they say it's happening to loads of people, and they don't know why. Half the computers at my wife's office (hundreds of them) have died in the same way.

    So reject the update option when your computer asks you.
     
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    Updated yesterday. I actually think the 'puter is working better than it has since the big update at the end of 2017.
     
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    Yes, the Microsoft lady I spoke to says it seems to be affecting about 10% of Windows 10 PCs, and they don't know why.
     
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    That's the thing. These forced updates may tank someone's computer and may have good impact on another.

    No one knows. That is why I hate the YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE UPDATE.

    I am now thinking my computer problems around the first of the year were all thanks to W10 updates. I have had no problems lately.
     
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    This is the reason my workplace is still using Windows 7 Pro. :cautious:
     
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    Every time I turn my pc off it decides if it wants to update or not. :(

    Maybe just let it fall into sleep mode tonight, lol.
     
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    Our old AMD processor desktop PC keeps losing hard drive access (boot disk) every time the Windows 10 Creator's edition update is applied. Currently trying to recover from this.

    I wonder if MS will give us a free Windows 10 install disk for PCs bricked by their cr@ppy OS.

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    Now, when I type "win" into Google on my (Windows 8) travel laptop, it autocompletes with "windows 10 update computer will not start". There are loads of articles about different problems. Apparently this was supposed to be a patch fixing problems the April update caused to other people's computers, but now it's messed up a whole new load of computers.

    Some articles said it might be possible to reinstall Windows from a USB, so I took it to our local suburban computer repair shop, which is always empty. There was a queue! Everyone had the same problem, and the computer guy is now trying to fix them all.

    This is as far as I was able to get, even with MS on the phone. I get to this screen, and then whatever I go, it dies and restarts itself.

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    Well, I'm sending them an invoice for whatever the computer guy charges me....
     
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    Britain's nuclear submarines still run a version of Windows XP called Windows For Submarines.
     
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    Hah, trivial. Everytime my windows 10 updates, my desktop shortcut for FreeCell classic get's deleted. Now that's dirty pool.
     
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    Same screen here, and none of the options work because the boot access is pooched. Fortunately, I have a windows bootable DVD, so I am trying to repair whatever damage was caused to screw up access to my hard disk so it can boot up and access, hopefully, a restore point I created before allowing the update.

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  13. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    What you're referring to is the KB4103721 patch. And the current MS notes mention that some PCs with Intel SSD Pro 6000p Series or Intel SSD 600p Series have a problem where the UEFI isn't written properly.

    In Windows 10 Pro, you can snooze updates for about a week. None of my machines update without me telling them to.

    And the whole...

    ... is bollocks. A workplace buys Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro. And updates can be completely disabled using Group Policies. All our enterprise machines have updates disabled. And like any organization worth its salt, they apply the updates in batches to test machines, then roll them out slowly to various machines with different levels of importance, checking inbetween. This is rolled out via the internal Intel/Microsoft software push, not Windows Updates. It also means the corporation isn't downloading a few hundred megabytes of updates PER BOX! Instead it downloads the updates once and pushes them out over the internal network.

    Oh well. Haters gonna hate.

    In my personal experience my MS boxes have been just as stable if not more so than my *nix boxes.
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    If the boot part is corrupted, rebuilt it. On the ‘Troubleshoot’ screen click on ‘Advanced Option’ and then click on ‘Command Prompt’.
    Type these commands on the Command Prompt for UEFI configuration:

    diskpart (opens Disk Partitioning tool)
    select disk 0 (or whichever disk is your system disk)
    list volume (please note the number of the volume that has no drive letter assigned and has FAT32 listed in the FS column, usually the only FAT32 volume/partition)
    select volume x <where x is the number of 100-500 MB FAT32 volume with no drive letter, or with label ESP, EFI or SYSTEM>
    assign letter=Z: (gives drive letter Z: to EFI System Partition)
    list volume (to check drive letter Z: is correctly assigned)
    exit (closes Disk Partitioning tool)

    cd /d Z:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\ (changes current folder in Command Prompt window)
    attrib Z:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD -h -r -s (removes hidden, read-only and system attributes from BCD folder)
    bootrec /fixboot (writes a new boot sector to the system partition)
    ren Z:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD BCD.old (renames BCD folder to BCD.old)

    bcdboot c:\Windows /l en-gb /s z: /f ALL (en-gb is for the UK - use your own locale)
     
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    i just leave my PC on 24/7. have it select a time in the AM when im not busy. and here's the key. i have a mouse giggler plugged in. as long as the PC thinks the mouse is moving it's not in non active hours and thus cant update.
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    You could just disable the 3 services that make the updates happen if you don't have Pro or Enterprise or use Group Policies...
     
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    Do you mind if I forward this to my repair guy?
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Go for it. It is the standard way of repairing a boot sector. :) Has been since Win7 really.
     
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    Ahha. Thank you.

    Also, thank you for using the far-too-underused-on-here word "bollocks".
     
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    Thank you 2k1Toaster, I will give it a try. :)

    Umm, what do I enter for locale exactly for the USA? Is it en-us?

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