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Electric Rates (where you live)

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by markabele, May 18, 2013.

  1. cwerdna

    cwerdna Senior Member

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    Thanks to Google's great built in calculator (Google for 1.319 uk pounds per litre in dollars per us gallons), that comes out to $7.60/US gal.
     
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    Electric costs here are a flat amt. My generation is 9.9c/kw and transmission is around 3c/kw (this has gone up a few times over the last couple years) plus a flat "connection fee" of like $8/month. All in all, around 12c/kw for me. Probably half my weekday charging is courtesy of work and free for me :D
     
  3. CaliforniaBear

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    Great summary! With my 2.8 kW solar panels I'm trying the E-9 rate plan which is designed for electric vehicles. Its similar to E-6 however off-peak costs are $0.037/kWh in the summer and $0.048/kWh in the winter. Off-peak is from 0000 to 0700 in the summer so you charge at night with the timer. Partial-peak cost is the same as the E-6 Off-peak but E-9 Peak (summer only) is slightly more expensive and goes for a couple of more hours per day. I'm making a careful hour-by-hour comparison of the two rates based on my usage. After only two very sunny Spring months there isn't much difference between the two rates. The hot Summer days will tell the tale. My guess is that E-6 is better for the modest usage of the Prius Plug-in and E-9 would be best for a Chevy Volt or the like. If so, I'll switch to E-6 at the end of my first year.

    Here are the rates with rounded values.
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  4. El Dobro

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    I'm paying .1833/kwh here. Even at that rate, it's better than gas, which is $3.29/gal where I buy it. I looked into TOU, but it wasn't worth it for me.
     
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    6.8 cents (Can) per kilowatt hour, up to some ceiling (which we've never exceeded), and 10.19 cents above the ceiling.
     
  6. SageBrush

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    New Mexico, through the utility PNM:

    $5/month access fee fixed
    kWh including fees and taxes is about 11 cents for the first 450 kWh, then I think 13 cents a kWh for the next 500, then about 15 cents/kWh for any additional.
     
  7. SageBrush

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    I'm not following your bill. Is net generation the amount your PV array generated, or is it PV_generation less home_energy_use ?
     
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    My bill is divided into 3 parts, service charge, distribution charge and supply charge. All three of those combined is where I got my charge of .1833/kwh. Do the rest of you with lower rates also have all of those charges combined?
     
  9. Britprius

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    I think you got the maths wrong £1.319 per litre comes out at slightly over £6 pounds a gallon. Where I live fuel is now down abit to £1.359 per litre.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    Nice. I looked up power generation for our area. Roughly 28% nuclear, 26% hydro, and 30% nat gas. The rest is a mix of wind (we seem to have a lot in our area), oil, and you! Thanks!
     
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    I suggest splitting out your fixed and marginal charges. Otherwise people with small bills appear to be in expensive $/kWh areas.

    E.g., my fixed cost is $5 and marginal cost is 11 cents/kWh. If I combine it all I end up at 16 cents/kWh ($16 for 100 kWh).
     
  12. SageBrush

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    4.5461 (litres/imp_gallon)*1.319 (UKP/litre) = 5.99 UKP/imp_gallon

    We are down to the last hair to split ;)
     
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    Ok I hold my hands up, but we cannot buy a litre at that price we have to pay £1.32 the closest we can get with our currency. These oil companies are crafty.

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    The reason NW power is so cheap is because of Bonneville (as in damn). It used to be way cheaper until politicians got involved.
    In Eugene our "company" is owned by us, the citizens of Eugene, and is not trying to make a profit! This is the way a necessity for living should be run. I used to live in a PG &E area of California and hated it.Think I've just talked myself into a plug-in for my next car...

    "The Eugene Water & Electric Board is committed to providing its customers with reliable, cost-effective sources of power that have minimal impact on the environment. More than 95% of the electricity EWEB needs to serve its customers comes from hydropower, wind and other sources that do not generate carbon-based emissions that are linked to global warming.
    Most of this electricity comes from the federal Bonneville Power Administration and from EWEB's own hydroelectric projects. EWEB also has been at the forefront of renewable energy resource development. We were the first public utility in Oregon to own a wind farm, and now own or contract for portions of four wind farms and four biomass cogeneration plants."


    Basic charge $10.85 per month
    Delivery charge 3.140 cents per kWh

    Energy charge, Winter (November through April billing cycles)
    First 800 kWh 5.224 cents per kWh
    Next 2,200 kWh 7.032 cents per kWh
    Over 3,000 kWh 8.372 cents per kWh

    Energy charge, Summer (May through October billing cycles)
    First 800 kWh 5.224 cents per kWh
    Next 900 kWh 7.032 cents per kWh
    Over 1,700 kWh 8.372 cents per kWh
     
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    Right, that's what I'm getting at.
    Service charge = 2.44
    Distribution charge = .0643/kwh
    Supply = .1115/kwh per first 319kwh 1133/kwh after 319kwh
    All of the charges have to be totalled, then divided by the kwh used to get true costs.
     
  16. SageBrush

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    Confusing method, because then two homes with identical fixed charges and marginal rates end up with different $/kWh results if their consumption differs.

    Report fixed and marginal costs separately.
     
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    ;) Funny.

    It doesn't work that way though. The product is calculated, and then you pay rounded to nearest penny.
     
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    Up to a gallon and slightly over it does. It is only when you get to over five litres that things begin to even out.
    Just splitting hairs again.;) We no longer have half pence coins that were worth more than our old original penny.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    I am in Westchester County New York. I pay between 26.9 to 21.4 cents per hour.
     
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    Currently paying 12.8p/kWh in the UK. No difference in time of day.