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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by El Dobro, Aug 13, 2018.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I did a quick dump of the Fuelecomony.gov list of EVs:
    Model kWh/100 mi comp city hwy range
    1 Hyundai Ioniq Electric 25 136 150 122 124
    2 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus 25 133 140 124 240
    3 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range 26 131 138 124 220
    4 Tesla Model 3 Long Range 26 130 136 123 310
    5 Tesla Model 3 Mid Range 27 123 128 117 264
    6 Hyundai Kona Electric 28 120 132 108 258
    7 Chevrolet Bolt EV 28 119 128 110 238
    8 Volkswagen e-Golf 28 119 126 111 125
    9 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD 29 116 120 112 310
    10 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD Performance 29 116 120 112 310
    11 Honda Clarity EV 30 114 126 103 89
    12 BMW i3 30 113 124 102 153
    13 BMW i3s 30 113 124 102 153
    14 Nissan Leaf (40 kW-hr battery pack) 30 112 124 99 150
    15 Kia Niro Electric 30 112 123 102 239
    16 Fiat 500e 30 112 121 103 84
    17 Tesla Model S Long Range 30 111 115 107 370
    18 Tesla Model S Standard Range 31 109 113 105 285
    19 smart EQ fortwo (coupe) 31 108 124 94 58
    20 Kia Soul Electric 31 108 124 93 243
    21 Nissan Leaf (62 kW-hr battery pack) 31 108 118 97 226
    22 Nissan Leaf SV/SL (62 kW-hr battery pack) 32 104 114 94 215
    23 Tesla Model S Performance (19in Wheels) 32 104 104 104 345
    24 Tesla Model S 75D 33 103 102 105 259
    25 smart EQ fortwo (convertible) 33 102 112 91 57
    26 Tesla Model S 100D 33 102 101 102 335
    27 Tesla Model S P100D 35 98 92 105 315
    28 Tesla Model S Performance (21in Wheels) 35 97 98 96 325
    29 Tesla Model X Long Range 35 96 99 93 325
    30 Tesla Model X 75D 36 93 91 95 238
    31 Tesla Model X 100D 39 87 86 89 295
    32 Tesla Model X P100D 40 85 83 89 289
    33 Tesla Model X Performance (22in Wheels) 43 79 80 77 270
    34 Jaguar I-Pace 44 76 80 72 234
    35 Audi e-tron 46 74 74 73 204
    36 BYD e6 47 72 73 71 187

    • Hyundai Kona is not a dog but it is dependent on the unreliable Electrify America CCS chargers.
      • EVgo and Electrify America CCS chargers have been pretty expensive, 3-4x gas equivalent, for our BMW i3-REx. However, a faster charger than our BMW i3-REx, 50 kW, may be EV affordable.
    • Audi e-tron is a dog along with the Jaguar I-Pace.
    Bob Wilson
     
  2. hill

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    ....... seems the i-Pace also has efficiency losses attributable to a large traction pack buffer. Bigger top end buffers allow for faster charging despite higher current during topping-off / full charging. High power charging at the top would otherwise generate tons of heat - making the battery susceptible to premature capacity loss. The downside is the cars have to lug around 100's of extra lbs of weight - taking an efficiency hit, in favor of getting back on the road quicker.
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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    The I-Pace has a major problem with the grill having an air duct exiting to the top of the front hood. Might as well mounted a parachute on the front grill except it would block that silly duct and improve high speed performance.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  4. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Lowest common denominator. Instead of educating customers, it seems they and Audi are doing this so as not to have to deal with complaints about the charging slow down when approaching full charge.
     
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  5. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Ya, Transport Evolved had a great video about it.
     
  6. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Do phones do the ramp down during charging?
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Definitely
     
  8. hill

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    only the ones with 90 kwh battery packs

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