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Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

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    I would presume there is much more detailed data than presented by Korte. Different birds eat different things. Understand what is changing leads to possibilities for mitigation.

    Again, the fleet is not crashing out of the air. But 7 times more birds must have real maintenance costs.
     
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    Some may not be aware of

    Climate Reanalyzer

    Which allows one to create maps of several parameters, in chosen areas, at chosen times. Actually there are very many options.

    For example, one could make temperature-anomaly maps for December from 1979 through 2017.

    If anyone finds a particularly interesting example there, please start a dedicated thread.
     
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    tochatihu Senior Member

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    If forgiven for stretching 'environment' to cover human internals, and 'news' to 2003 :)

    Consider getting a copy of

    "Understanding the Immune System How it Works" from US Natl Inst Health.

    57 not-so-painful pages later, you will. In times of anti-vaxxers and immune-boosting supplements. it is not a bad thing to understand.
     
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    I wonder if airports have cut back on the programs that kept birds away.
     
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    pita pressure?
     
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    Another bisco enigma. It is a pain in the aspic to deter airport birds ?
     
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    poison, bulets, traps, have at it, especially gulls
     
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    All those things are done. More common, big noisemakers. Less common, trained birds of prey. Actually I think poisoning is going out because cannot control who eats it, and some of those airplane killers are endangered species.

    What trollbait asked, and I don't know, is if bird control is being less extensively waged.
     
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    Smart dog to patrol airport area? Or sheep to deny bird access to food?
     
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    bwilson4web i3 and Prime

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    I think the dogs can be trained to stay off the runways. Sheep, not so mulch.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    On a training flight in Idaho I declined to land at a remote airfield. Ground fog after about the middle. Told instructor I could not confirm absence of deer. May have become one of his 'stories'.
     
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    when we were at pebble beach a few years back, they used an owl to keep gulls away. not sure how effective it was though, there were still some gulls
     
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    Some owls 'work' during daytime. Otherwise it would not seem effective.

    Replica owls in service tend to get their replica heads spattered with (real) bird droppings, suggesting a degree of contempt.

    Following repeat mention of gulls, I'll agree that they are leading troublemakers, at airports and many other settings.
     
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    smart birds, except for their blind spot for jet engine intakes
     
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    Once I watched a poor little butterfly fluttering around engine during run up. When the expected thing happened, it was far off to the side. Those engines really suck (meant in a mostly good way).
     
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    there has to be a high tech solution, we're not trying hard enough
     
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    Always good to make your puns count(y).
     
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    You got to give Birds credit. If it wasn't for their sacrificing themself, Sully would never know he could make a safe water landing on the Hudson
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