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  1. tochatihu

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    ... my multi-messenger joke falls flat
     
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    ... separately, that is amusing too, but I had nothing to continue that line.
     
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    There is a brilliant and irascible (US) scientist rattling about in Costa Rica. That person published the shortest article I know. One word. Can't get any shorter than that.

    While we are here rattling on about the longests, my thoughts turn oppositely. And I smile.
     
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    creative commons share and share-alike may not be inhaling it's final breaths just yet. Some of the natural sciences still are giving it the ole college try. Now that Creative Commons version 4 was recently released, it'll be interesting to see if there are others out there that will find a use for it, in whatever circles they go round in round in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share-alike
    Just guessing if the amount of author attributions might have anything to doo with giving credit where credit is due.
     
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    I hope readers see something of how big data science (the fourth industrial revolution!) is challenging (not only) environmental research. How value etc. are to be conferred on data originators has not been sorted out.
     
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    Worse, how poorly we are taught to separate less than reliable data from what is too often meant to mislead. But this has been a problem with our species since the Dark Ages barely 600 years ago.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    We're getting more accurate reports and it is grim. It somewhat reminds me of 2011 Alabama that tore out the transmission lines.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I whole heartedly agree that the basic problems man faces come from long buried and forgotten behaviors that still have not been sorted. I'd even go as far as saying timeless.
     
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    Antarctica Thwaites glacier now merits clicks:

    Scientists warn a critical ice shelf in Antarctica could shatter within the next five years - CNN

    So we might take a look. The entire thing represents 65 cm of global sea-level rise. Its first partial exit has not yet happened, but it will. After it does, future dynamics of rest-of-Thwaites exit may become more clear.

    All other melting of grounded ice is raising sea levels by ~1 cm/yr globally, with no clearly discernible acceleration yet. Thwaites glacier has potential to make all those others look small.

    Antarctica was 'down there' for quite a long time, but only ~34 million years ago started trapping persistent ice (and decreasing sea levels). If a warmer future obliges it to wholly melt, sea level would rise by ~58 meters. Such a change would require centuries at least, and coastal populations and ports would have time to react.
     
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    but no one wants to move
     
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    Philippines (Siargao Island) is cleaning up after typhoon Rai. Typhoon season normally extends fro July through October. December hits have happened there before, but maybe not with one as strong as this.
     
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    Philippines typhoon Rai continues pretty bad, only alleviated by President Rodrigo Duterte's remarks:

    "The moment I was born into this world, I told my mother, `Let’s not stay here because this place is really prone to typhoons,’” Duterte told officials.

    Mothers of this world are probably not often confronted by speech from newborns. Dang.
     
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    I remember talking to someone even before I was born, but nobody believes me.
     
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    re in car nation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation
    it's a crazy world sometimes. By the way, how Long is the story?
     
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    JOURNAL
    Nature Communications

    DOI
    10.1038/s41467-021-27247-y

    METHOD OF RESEARCH
    Data/statistical analysis

    SUBJECT OF RESEARCH
    Not applicable

    ARTICLE TITLE
    Pricing indirect emissions accelerates low—carbon transition of US light vehicle sector

    ARTICLE PUBLICATION DATE
    8-Dec-2021

    Disclaimer: AAAS and EurekAlert! are not responsible for the accuracy of news releases posted to EurekAlert! by contributing institutions or for the use of any information through the EurekAlert system.


    https://www.aaas.org/
     
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    sure enough 4-5 years later a pandemic...

    (not sure if someone else has pointed this out as this thread is massive)
     
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    at least we've survived another 5+ years :oops:
     
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