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EV/PHEV reliability report

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  1. Old Bear

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    According to Autos CheatSheet, Consumer Reports has just published its reliability ratings of EV and PHEV vehicles. Excerpt:

    Of the three plug-in models with excellent reliability scores for 2019, two were plug-in hybrids. Toyota Prius Prime and BMW i3 set the standard in this segment following the latest owner survey. (The Nissan Leaf distinguished itself among pure EVs.)

    As for the Chevrolet Volt, this long-range plug-in ranked among the worst. Its reliability score (32%) trailed Prius Prime (91%) and the i3 (89%) by miles. Issues with the drive system, power equipment, and cabin electronics have turned up in recent years.

    The article admits that most EV and PHEV models are too new to have long reliability histories as yet.
     
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    any rag that rates any bmw as reliable isn't worth wrapping fish in
     
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    U love to see it:p
     
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  5. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Predicted reliability: Poor?? Is it because of past Honda hybrids?

    So far the RLX Sport Hybrid and the Accord Hybrid (2017+ with the Earth Dreams setup) have been working out (as far as I know). I haven't heard anything bad from the latest generation of Honda hybrids.
     
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    me neither. quite the opposite in fact
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    CR's reliability ratings are based on consumer surveys, and apparently doesn't involve any weighing of the issues. One car has a trim piece snap off and another a blown head gasket, and they both are counted as one problem. Then what someone reports problem doesn't necessarily mean something broke. Not defending Sync's poor interface design, but complaints about it, though it worked as intended, dragged down Ford's reliability rating for years.
    I understand the issues with the i3 mostly involved the range extender system. EV drive trains aren't as tricky to do as an ICE one.
     
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    just look at the mess that is bob wilsons, one mans story
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    A i3 BEV wouldn't have had engine mounts to break.
     
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    good point. still a beemer though. not known for reliability in any aspect
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    It's bimmer;)
    Friend just replaced his 3 series with a Model 3.
     
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    huh, i've been saying beemer for 40 years(n)
     
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    Pretend you've always been talking about their motorcycles and you've been correct for 40 years. (y)
    Come to think of it - isn't the range extender a motorcycle engine?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Yes.
     
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    It needs disclaimerpast performance is no guarantee of future results” lol
     
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    sounds like beemer but dimmer.
     
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