Expensive Oil Change & Tire Rotation?

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  1. Prodigyplace

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    I refused the free ones after my first disastrous visit. My local dealer is so bad they messed up a tire rotation and inspection!
    Of course I drove 150 miles to a trusted dealer to have the wiring harness inspection recall performed. My trusted salesman there still drives his Gen 1 Prius.
     
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    Nah. This dealer is pretty good in that regard. I just trust my own oil changes more than someone else's.
     
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    Change the cabin air filter. That not expensive and easy to do yourself. Plenty of YouTube videos on how to do it.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    It's funny, that the cabin filter costs more than engine filter. :confused:
     
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    Thank you for the replies. As usual they're very helpful.

    According to my receipt, my oil change included "4.4 quarts of 0w20 Mobil 1 Full Syn"

    The price on Amazon for a 5 qt. 2 Pack (160 ounces) is $58.04.

    You can obviously save money. However, I really don't want to get involved in purchasing the equipment needed for a DIY. I actually like my dealership. They always come across as polite and professional. They usually get me in and out quickly. I don't mind spending extra for the convenience, and avoiding the mess I'm likely to make.

    Like all people, I don't like getting ripped off. The price initially seemed very high to me.

    At least now I know I can wait beyond the 5K miles. I'm a little ticked that Toyota would program the vehicle to make a customer believe an oil change is required twice as often as necessary.
     
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    Read your manual. It is a maintenance light and they recommend tire rotation and inspection every 5K to keep the profitable dealer service revenue high.
     
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    What @Prodigyplace said. The message simply is says it's time for maintenance. Doesn't say oil, doesn't say tires, doesn't say filters, spark plugs, or anything else. It assumes you will check the maintenance schedule provided with the car to see what maintenance is recommended at that mileage.
     
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    The maintenance minder on Toyota is strictly miles based. The routine service interval is 5kmile or 6 mo whichever comes first. I have 2020 PP that is now 9 mo old, but have only 2K miles on it due to COVID-19 restriction. I skipped the first 5K/5mo free Toyota Care. Now, I am due for second 10K/10mo free Toyota Care. I am not sure if I should try to schedule the service at my local dealer or do the oil change DIY.
     
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    @salamadar king if you DIY you'll know for sure what size filter yours takes. Than as long as your've figured out how to read the dip stick ??? you should be good to go with the oil, anyways ;)
     
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    Yeah, if I could use the element filter I purchased in bulk for my Gen3 Prius 4 years ago on my 2020 PP, I would DIY. I have used 5 free Toyota Care services for the 2015 Gen3 and the 2017 PP and switched to DIY after free care run out. But for my 2020 PP, I can't use the element filters I have, and I also can not use the 0W20 oil I just bought for our other cars. The question is, do I want to pay ~$30 out of my pocket for 0W16 oil and canister filter and DIY or drive a few hours to my closest Toyota dealer to get the free Toyota Care. When COVID-19 was not around us, the answer was easy. I enjoyed twice a year dealer visits to get free maintenance, free coffee, free ice cream, and free car wash, plus just to get out the town and do shopping in a city with free shuttle the dealer provides. But now with the COVID-19 rampant, I don't feel so eager to visit any place where people congregate.
     
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    I would use up the 0W20. Toyota's policy change on the oil weight seems pure politics to me. The spin-on filters are about $8 CDN up here.
     
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    I got 12qts bulk of 0W20 from Walmart for our other two cars that are due for oil change now. I will be using ~11qts. I will not have enough to do my PP. I am not sure if mixing 0w20 and 0w16 is OK? I was thinking of doing the oil change on PP when switching to the winter tires, but I think I will skip the the winter tires this year. I am just not driving this car enough to make it worth the trouble of DIY maintenance.
     
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    FWIW, I'm running 0W-20 in my 2019 Prius. It's mainly used for longer trips, at speed, and the owner manual indicates a higher viscosity oil may be appropriate in this situation. Perhaps for short trips, where the engine is stopping and starting, and not warming up, the 0W-16 is better, especially GF-6-rated oil. I recently bought a 2-day at TIS, to obtain some repair info. This is for the 2019 Prius:

    Standard Oil Grade (for USA):
    OIL GRADE
    OIL VISCOSITY (SAE)
    ILSAC GF-5 multigrade engine oil
    0W-16
    Standard Oil Grade (for Mexico):
    OIL GRADE
    OIL VISCOSITY(SAE)
    API grade SL "Energy-Conserving", SM "Energy-Conserving", SN "Resource-Conserving" or SN PLUS"Resource-Conserving", or ILSAC multigrade engine oil
    0W-20
    5W-20
    5W-30
    10W-30
    API grade SL, SM, SN or SN PLUS multigrade engine oil
    15W-40
     
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