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i did that, but it just kept swerving back and forth. if i get used to that, it will be amazing.
i was actually shocked when the wheel started moving on it's own while i had the death grip on it, because it came on with cc, which was all that i was looking for.
then i'm trying to scroll through the screens to shut it off.
definitely a learning curve.
on the tesla test drive, i was expecting it, and it was as smooth as silk.

 

Sounds like hardware upgrades between them, and the Camry got 2.5+ with the refresh.

There is warnings in the manual about it possibly swaying if the car ahead is going so. It might even follow the car through a lane change. I'm leaning towards you making a correction, and system over correcting to that input. With experience, you should reach the point of just letting it do its job.

It seems it is all or nothing with Toyota. If the basic warning and help system is off, then the lane keeping with CC will be off too. Others allow a bit more selection.

 

Yes, I found that after doing all the scrolling

 

In the 2017 Prius Prime:

• Lane keep alert - required steering back into the lane. You were always steering the car.
• Lane keeping correction - if you ignored the audio, the car would quickly steer back towards the center of the lane just. as your tires started to ride on the lane line. But there was no PID control logic to smoothly steer into the center. Instead it would start to violate the other lane line and again correct back to the center, now rapidly crossing the lane. By the third correction, you were headed to the shoulder or ditch.

The absence of serious lane following or even basic PID control laws infuriated me. The 2019 Tesla autopilot was a great relief.

Bob Wilson

 

Not true, the system can be level 3 or 4 in certain areas but still do "just" assisting in other areas. Its not black or white. And from a technological perspective I don't really see a fundamental difference. There is no revolution but rather a slow adaption/improvement of systems and even more important now, legal issues like liability. In the end it always comes down to safety & liability - unless you live in some third world country which doesn't care too much.

Tesla FSD(beta) is a very impressive technology but just a beta with no relevance to everyday drivers. Its not even available outside of the US and would not be allowed as a level 2 system (which it is) in Europe.

But a level 5 car is by definition driverless - for collaborative steering you can use level 4 car.

Level 5 car might be completely different and might not have steering wheel. Target groups could be companies or service providers and not individuals.

 

we got the curve speed reduction feature with 2.5, i'm looking forward to it when we travel I95 through cities with wild, dangerous curves

 

Does it dodge potholes?

 

another reason i keep getting the center line beep, i'm a huge pothole/manhole dodger. i even dodge the little water valve covers (often missing) the covers, not me

 

Okay, we'll call it "Btfsplk" that had the characteristics I experienced. I was so happy to get away from "Btfsplk."

I paid $29k and a year later, traded it in for $18.3k and a Tesla Model 3. Called 'tuition in the school of hard knocks," I no long had to put up with "Btfsplk."

Bob Wilson