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  1. Gokhan
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    Tesla has been cheating EPA on mpge and range numbers

    If you compare the EPA mpge numbers for the Toyota Prius Prime vs. the most efficient Tesla Model 3 trims, you will see that they are about the same—Prius Prime itself having 133 mpge with similar number for the Model 3. However, how could this be given that the Prius Prime is a much lighter car that runs on much skinnier tires? Well, it isn't. The Tesla Model 3 has a lot lower mpge than the Prius Prime, but they somehow managed to find a way to overstate their mpge values, while virtually all other manufacturers conservatively understate them. The real-world mpge of Prius Prime vs. Tesla Model 3 is probably more like 3 to 2 rather than anywhere near being equal.

    The way the range and mpge values work is that they are self-reported by the manufacturers to the EPA. It is an honor system, and we know from the Volkswagen scandal that it could be exploited. Edmunds tested the actual ranges for the EVs, and they found out that virtually all underestimate, many greatly, the real-world...
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  2. kenmce
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    Go Electric Meets the Three Stooges.

    California recently announced a bold plan to outlaw the sale of anything but electric vehicles starting in 2035. That sounds OK, but what's this just released by CAISO, the organization that is in overall charge of electricity in California?

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    During a Flex Alert, consumers are urged to reduce energy use from 4-9 p.m. when the
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    degrees or higher, avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles,


    So they want you to buy electric cars, but you can't charge them when it's hot...
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    Canada will need about 200,000 EV Chargers by 2030

    https://motorillustrated.com/canada-will-need-200000-ev-charging-stations-by-2030/103252/

    Motor Illustrated reported that the Ministry of Natural Resources has determined that Canada will need 200,000 EV Charging station by 2030 for a cost of $20 billion.

    Supposedly there are 16,640 EV chargers in Canada now with another 84,500 planned by 2027. They are trying to get at least 1 EV charger for 24 EVs.

    Hmmm, that means with a population of slightly over 38M then by extrapolation the US with it’s population of slightly over 331M will need close to 2,000,000.


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