Ford ahead of Toyota?

1) i understand your confusion, you had quoted someone who mentioned it, and i should have quoted that quote instead of yours

2) if you dont know what i drive, you need to read more carefully. all my cars are in my signature

3) it was said in jest which should have been obvious when you notice the stats on my last tank of gas on the 2010.

 

True. I'd say those FFH owners who talk smack about the Prius needs to understand their car is basically a Prius on steroids.

 

Hello, before you flame me, Prius supporter here. However:

Here are the things that I wish the Prius had that the FFH has:

1.Blue LED backlighting (I prefer it over the Prius's green)
2.The navigation system/Microsoft SYNC system.

That's about it. If the FFH didn't have those two things, the Prius would win hands down, IMO. When weighing all things though, I still rather have a Prius. Plus, when it comes to real life, you have to look at the facts:

Ask someone who has owned any Toyota car for 10 years. How many times did they take it to the shop for fixing anything at all?

Now ask someone who has owned any Ford car for 10 years the same question...

I think we all know the answer to the above, I rest my case.

 

Ford has big problems and didn't see the writing on the wall any more than the others of the big three. Their CEO has reacted better than the other two but big troubles are still ahead. The following is from Fortune magazine.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/25/news/companies/taylor_ford.fortune/index.htm

No move has been more shocking than Ford's decision to delay the introduction of its all-new 2009 F-150 pickup truck for two months because it still has too many 2008 models to sell.



Delaying the introduction of a new model to cope with inventory problems is all but unprecedented in Detroit. Automakers depend on new model introductions to boost showroom traffic and stimulate sales of all their vehicles. They want to get new models onto the market as quickly as possible. Recall that just two years ago, GM (GM, Fortune 500) raced to launch its own new pickup trucks 90 days ahead of schedule.


The financial consequences of Ford's move are enormous. By suspending production for two months (and analysts suspect it may be longer), Ford (F, Fortune 500) is giving up any improved revenue and profit contribution it might have gotten by selling the new model vs. the old one, as well as any revenue at all that comes from running the factory. Ward Transportation Research now figures that, with this and other actions, Ford will lose $3 billion pretax in North America this year, up from a previous estimated loss of $1.9 billion.


The F-150 is Ford's most popular model and among its most profitable. By essentially cutting its annual volume by 16%, the company is reducing the profit it will reap on the rest of the production run, as well as wreaking havoc among suppliers, who had based their own cost projections on higher volume.
Brian A. Johnson of Lehman Brothers described Ford's predicament as a "negative feedback loop," in which bad news feeds on itself, creating worse news. In a June 23 report, he wrote: "With gas prices remaining stubbornly high, demand for both new and used large pickups is falling precipitously. As a result, falling trade-in values is [sic] likely keeping buyers out of the market - especially those who might still be repeat buyers of larger vehicles."


Though Ford has been no more prescient than its cross-town rivals in foreseeing the spike in oil prices and the subsequent collapse of truck and SUV sales, CEO Alan Mulally has been quick and decisive in dealing with the situation, cutting production and payrolls and delivering regular public pronouncements about Ford's financial condition.

 

Hey folks,

I'm glad Ford is doing better as well, and agree that the Ford Fusion and Hybrid are cool, the tech is rather nice. I just traded-in my 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid for a 2010 Toyota Prius V with the ATP. I can say that I love the new Prius, but I disagree with some posts above. I think the Toyota Camry Hybrid is a very good car and competitor for the Fusion Hybrid. I actually think the TCH is more comfy and handles better, though I like the dashboard tech on the Fusion best.....but ultimately, I think the TCH was the best car!