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Ford in blatant lie

Discussion in 'Ford/Lincoln Hybrids and EVs' started by codybigdog123, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Chevy does an excellent job of advertizing cars that can't be bought. (We all know what that one is.) Toyota also shows the hydrogen powered Prius in their ads. So the lesson is that manufacturers advertize products the consumer can't buy and that ads don't tell the whole story. What a concept!
     
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    Genoz World ZEN-style living

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    YEP.........agree that the US manufacturers have not done their jobs in terms of looking into the future. We all remember they almost disappeared right? Until we the taxpayers came to their rescue......

    I also personally think that by the time the VOLT comes out, it's already yesterdays news. In the last auto show, the volt almost looks "dated" now. A bit of yesterday........and yet it's still NOT released! The fusion is OK.......it shows that Ford has stepped in as a contender.

    No matter how much we rag on and berate the US auto manufacturers, it's NOT a good thing for them to go under. There's a lot of history behind GM/Ford/Dodge-Chrysler. They just need MUCH better leaders.
     
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    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    In Australia Ford advertise the Fiesta as being lower cost than a Corolla, but the Fiesta is Yaris size. How silly is that?
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    According to the Merriam Webster dictionary, sedan is a 2- or 4-door automobile seating four or more persons and usually having a permanent top.

    Source: sedan - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    Their definition of a hatchback is an automobile the back of which consists of a hatch that opens upward; also : the back itself.

    Source: hatchback - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    I understand the hatchback is a subset of sedan. Prius is a sedan with a hatchback. Fusion hybrid is a sedan with a trunk.
     
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    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_body_style]Car body style - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    From that link....

    Hatchback sedan

    Chevy Malibu Maxx hatchback sedan
    Hatchback (a.k.a. liftback) sedans typically have the fastback profile, but instead of a trunk lid, the entire back of the vehicle lifts up (using a liftgate or hatch). A vehicle with four passenger doors and a liftgate at the rear can be called a four-door hatchback, four-door hatchback sedan, or five-door sedan. An example of such is the Chevrolet Malibu Maxx. There can also be two-door hatchback sedans (three-door sedans), by the same technical explanation for two-door sedans. Examples of this design are the Volkswagen Golf, and Chevrolet Chevette.

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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    And Porsche is introducing a four door coupe.
    Outside of regulations, where the the definetion is tied to hard numbers like volume or weight, what is or isn't a sedan is as mutable as car bodies. If you asked people on the street what type of car body the Prius has, there would be few hatchback sedan answers and less, if any, plain sedan answers. You won't find the Prius under sedan at Edmunds, but it is at Autobytel.

    It is just a commercial. Noise that underwrites your free entertainment. If you really feel Ford as done something wrong in it, contact the authorities, and file a complaint
     
  8. brad_rules_man

    brad_rules_man Hybrid electric revolutionizer

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    Yeah... made in America... Sonora, Mexico.
     
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    north america.;)
     
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    dbcassidy Toyota Hybrid Nation, 8 Million Strong

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    Is not the Prius a SEDAN???

    Dbcassidy
     
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    Well technically a prius is a sedan, but I would call it a hatchback from common usage. It would be quite bizarre for ford salesmen to claim it is more fuel efficient then a prius, but would would not be suprised if one did. So in my book this isn't even misleading.

    The calling of NAFTA - canada and mexico - manufacture made in america is quite the oposite. It is techincally correct, as in made in North America but purposefully misleadingly implying made in the USA.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Depends on who you ask. See my post above.
     
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    Old comment I know ... but can you even count the malibu as a hybrid? 1) Wasn't the only thing is did to get it's 'hybrid' badge, was to turn on/off at red lights?
    2) Do to paltry sales, they don't even make it any more, right?
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Thread necromancy!

    But I believe you are correct on both counts. It had start/stop and that is it. If you crept ahead at a light or drive through, the engine would have to kick on, and there was quite the delay in doing so. Also if you never actually stopped fully, it would never actually shut off. All of their "mild hybrids" are like that. I feel sorry for the idiots that bought those.