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Fuel Tank Size degrading over time?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by p626808, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. p626808

    p626808 New Member

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    Hi all.
    Well.. I hit 136K miles this morning.

    I experience something I never have before.

    I went to get gas yesterday. I was blinking the fuel gauge for 40 miles. so I am like.. I better get gas..
    Same type of pump and gas (wawa) I always use. temp was about 48 or so.. not to terribly cold.

    And how much did it take to fill it?

    8.35 gallons?

    Never had a fillup that small before.. even in colder weather than yesterday.

    I have noticed a decrease in the last few months. but I just thought it was the guage..

    But.. from 40 miles after a blinking guage and to only get in 8.35 gallons...
    Never seen it before..

    Thought maybe the rubber inards of the gas tank.. has stopped flexing.. and it stuck at a certain gallonage.

    Not quite sure how to explain it..

    Any thoughts?

    Scott
     
  2. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    The bladder is less flexible at low temp. Nothing to worry about.

    Oh, sure, it *may* become inherently less flexible as it ages, regardless of temperature, but what are you gonna do? Spend $1500 to replace the fuel tank so that you can drive another 12% between fill-ups? At the very least wait for warmer weather and see what happens. And no matter what happens, do not top-off. Topping off can damage the fuel tank and compel an expensive repair, as has been described in multiple places. And even if it does not cause damage, topping off greatly increases hydrocarbon emissions from the car, which counters one big reason for buying a Prius in the first place.
     
  3. seasalsa

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    Sounds about normal to me.

    I seldom can get more than 8.5 gallons in my 04.

    Toyota issued a TSB for VIN numbers JTDKB2#U#40000001 –JTDKB2#U#40057579 and JTDKB2#U#40057580 – JTDKB2#U#40078361 that was supposed to take care of the problem.

     
  4. Danny Hamilton

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    Do you remember the exact conditions when the gauge started blinking?

    Were you perhaps accelerating up a long incline, or perhaps slowing on a long (what's the opposite of an incline?)

    I've noticed that when my gauge starts blinking while I'm on an incline for longer than usual, I usually get less fuel in the tank when I fill it up. I suspect that the fuel pools to one side of the gauge or the other causing the float to drop and the gauge registers "low fuel" sooner while there is more fuel still left in the tank than usual. This doesn't seem to affect the gauge when it happens for short periods of time. I assume that the programming averages multiple readings of the fuel level, but if extended time is spent on the hill (especially if accelerating or decelerating) eventually the average drops low enough to fool the gauge.

    Of course this is all wild speculation on my part, but since you asked.
     
  5. p626808

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    Yeah.. I was on level ground.. going slow actually.. when it started blinking..

    My tank was at 10 percent..(I have CANVIEW) and stayed there 'till I filled up..

    And I never over fill it.. not worth the aggrevation it might cause.

    I also had the TSB done for the new computer and tank sensor.. and it did improve the gauge alot after I had it done.. now... it seems to be acting the way it was when I bought the car.. before the TSB..

    We shall see..

    Thanks for the input...
     
  6. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    8½ gallons? should be enough to get ya around a bit... if you are that worried, park in garage, crank on space heater for a few hours, then wait till the "heat" of midday, buzz on down to gas station and refill...

    actually, to be honest with ya, i do fillups in that range all the time and i betcha it aint nowhere near as cold here as it is there. lately we have had much colder than normal weather so now i understand what most of the country goes thru every winter. my last tank was an alltime low... like 43 mpg... tank was like 390 miles (estimating here, you can see this in my sig and i too lazy to look...:rolleyes: and now this was only about 10 miles into the blinker, but i get gas when its convenient so it was time... but heck, prev tank was 430 miles and had 2 bars left@!!
     
  7. JimboK

    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    I typically refuel when the last pip starts blinking. If you click the CleanMPG or GreenHybrid banners in my sig, you'll see several fillups in the 8-9 gallon range. Most are in cold weather. So I agree with the others that it's normal cold-weather behavior.
     
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    Could be a faulty nozzle on the gas pump. Try a different station, or at least a different pump next time you fill up.

    p caillouet
     
  9. philmcneal

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    been getting same syptom too but weather was 15 degrees C and can only pump the same amount in first click (always chevron same gas pump too!) 30 liters to be exact! can drive over 650 km before the last blip keeps barking at me!

    191000 km for me nwh20
     
  10. philmcneal

    philmcneal Taxi!

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    hm at 420 something km and then managed to pump 22 liters in with 4 blips left on the gas gauge 15 degrees C (27-29 bucks and then click!), i think its normal if you fill 1/4 tank rather than near empty... the bladder doesn't expand as much if it were to have gas in the tank.

    my 2 centz