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Gas Prices

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by huskers, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. Son of Gloin

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    Around here, prices for regular / unleaded at most stations have gone up from about $2.249 to $2.49.9 over the last two weeks or so.
     
  2. VFerdman

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    I think the largest part of the price differences state to state is due to the tax structure, not base product price. This is why left coast is red. They have higher taxes on gas while lower states that are closer to Texas have lower gas taxes. The range between the dark green and dark red on the GassBuddy site is about $0.80/gallon. Here in Central/Western Massachusetts I have seen the price jump about $0.30 - $0.40 since Harvey hit TX.
     
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  3. bwilson4web

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    Natural gas is often a by-product of oil and a primary fuel for electric power plants. Harvey is likely to have an impact on the direct heating and electric rates.

    Bob Wilson
     
  4. Dm84

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    California has a special blend of gas sold only in California, which is why their price is always sky high.
     
  5. wjtracy

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    A lot of populated areas use RFG and that adds about 20-30 cents a gallon. Then you have state ;local taxes. I wish we could get a GasBuddy price map with +taxes and +RFG costs removed, and then we would have a map showing more equal cost over the Country, and the areas still with higher cost would be the areas with higher profit margins (like my area).
     
  6. bisco

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    is natural gas price regulated?
     
  7. wjtracy

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    I don't think NG price is regulated, but it is wacky. What you pay at home far exceeds the well head price. You basically get a huge delivery charge that masks the actual lower cost of NG. we'd all be paying zilch at home for heat if we saw a direct benefit of the low cost natural gas in our monthly bills.
     
  8. stevepea

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    This summer, while Texas recorded its most rainfall ever, San Fransisco recorded their highest temperature -- not for a specific date, but the city's highest temperature: 106 Degrees, and the UK is in the midst of its hottest summer on record. So isn't it good to know that we as a country now no longer believe the 97% of expert (there's that dirty word) scientists worldwide who say man is affecting the climate? Great, not our fault, not our problem, time to celebrate freedom, wave my made-in-China flag and buy three more SUVs. My point is to get used to higher gas prices, because for whatever tribal reason people use to dismiss reality, as long as people choose to bury their head in the sand about this, things like this are going to become a lot more common.

    I also find it interesting that SoCal gas prices have risen so much as well, considering that the special, required blend we use here is refined locally at (I believe it's 5) refineries, and doesn't come from Texas. One can make the argument that when a local California refinery making the gas we actually use shuts down, that certainly puts a crimp into the supply for California, but California requires a special blend, and as far as I know, none of it comes from Texas, yet prices for the California gas have shot up from $2.63 to $2.98 in a matter of days. And you can be sure that when the higher gas tax takes effect on Nov 1st (12c more), the price rise will certainly be more than 12c -- hoping people don't notice.
     
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  9. Dm84

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    The crude oil comes from the Gulf (among other places). So even if you're refining it in California, there's just less crude available at this moment to send to California, which makes the price rise as well.
     
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    Or the California refineries would ship their gasoline eastward for higher profits if the prices in Ca didn't rise.
     
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    We had 62 deg F high yesterday which gets into record cool for the date some places.
     
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    prior to the hurricane gas prices in western ny were steady around 2.40. now in the 2.60's range

    makes my electric costs even more favorable vs gas
    at 5.2 miles per kwh and 12.44 cents per kwh and gas at 2.60 makes electric driving equivalent to 108 mpg.
     
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    you're killing me.:(
     
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    I pay over 20 cents per kwh in MA. I'd give anything for 12 cents per kwh.

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    In just a week, gas went up 40 to 50 cents a gallon around here.
     
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    Ok... I didn't realize that we have low electric rates here... On the other hand.. we always pay much more than the national average per gallon for gasoline..

    And wow... prices on friday were about 2.60 a gallon... right now the station I use is charging $3.15... national average is 2.59

    Seems like it was a good time to buy the Prime.
     
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    $2.90 up the street from me.
     
  20. scm2000

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    So even though the gas price spike doesn't have as much an effect with a Prime, it's nice the Entune Fuel Guide app is fairly accurate... so you can save some by checking the app out before gassing up.

    Also.. I'm wondering if the spike subsides before I need to buy gas (looking like 5 weeks from now since I did my first fill up at half a tank on Friday)