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Gen 3 Prius engine conversion

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by jan jurnecka, Feb 26, 2022.

  1. jan jurnecka

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    I have a 2010 Prius 1 with 175k miles that has the dreaded combustion leak (head gasket vs head/block crack). I've watched several videos of using a Gen 4 engine for the swap...looks pretty straightforward...but local shops are recommending against it due to "compatability" issues. I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has done this swap...any subsequent problems I should be aware of?
     
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    i think there's a thread here, if you can find it. no major problems iirc.
     
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    Check out hybridpit.com and call them.
    You can also use code "azusa" on their site
    To save some cash too!

    Mention that I sent you and you may get a deal on your engine swap.

    Good luck!
     
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    The engines are designed for different EGR systems: Gen 3 for higher-pressure EGR from ahead of the catalyst, Gen 4 for lower pressure from after the catalyst, requiring all the components upsized in order to pass the correct flow (in a Gen 4 car).

    From what I've seen in the existing threads:

    • Nobody has swapped the exhaust in order to get the Gen 4 front pipe with the low-pressure EGR takeoff. Apparently there are basic making-it-fit issues. So people are keeping the Gen 3 exhaust, and either:
    • keeping the Gen 3 EGR components, which at least are matched to the exhaust setup, but don't mount well to the Gen 4 engine, or
    • using the Gen 4 EGR components, which are too big for the higher-pressure Gen 3 exhaust takeoff, and asphyxiate the engine with too much EGR.

    From what I've seen, nobody seems to get that working very well. The most promising recent thread I saw about it involved making a restrictor by punching holes in some sheet metal to go between the EGR valve and the intake, with trial and error to get the holes the right size. Seemed to get the engine running closer to ok, but it's not clear yet whether the flow curve you get from some holes in sheet metal is much like the curve the engine needs over the range of running conditions.

    I've also seen threads contain a lot of guesswork about the cooling system differences.
     
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    The mechanics you're talking to have concerns about compatibility issues because they do all they can to avoid experiments and suprises. But if you keep searching and can clearly define all the solutions for the small amount of compatibility issues involved in great detail you'll eventually find a mechanic who will help.
     
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    My two swapped Prius v's are still on the road. No oil burning, CEL's or EGR problems. I drive 100 miles a day in my Gray v, and it's been 3 and a half years and 75,000 miles since I replaced the engine.
    - Fix That Prius !!!
     
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