Gen 3 used vs. Gen 4 new - which is the better option

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by SSmith, Jun 16, 2016.

  1. Lucifer

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    A used hybrid is different than a used non-hybrid, the hybrid battery is used, get a new one, the 2 eco has the lighter battery and get's outstanding mpg's, (4) more than the others, the 16's drive more sporty, but, it's your money.
     
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    Buy used Gen 3 if money is a concern, gas prices are still fairly low and it's a great time to buy used Hybrids, I've seen used 2013-2015 Prii with 20-30K Miles go for around $16,500; an incredible bargain, the changes for Gen IV is not enough to make up such a large difference in pricing.
     
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    It has a steadier, lower ride and flatter cornering than gen3, but the steering response even with the Touring and 17" tires is fairly light and docile. Hybrid / engine is really quiet not like sportier cars that have some exhaust note.

    Maybe it's about time to look forward to a Model 3, see what it takes to own a Tesla. Prius is a bust for me.
     
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    Tesla?
     
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    Tesla S scored like perfect 100 on Consumer Reports road test. Aside from quiet, model S drives like primo luxury sports sedan.
     
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    I remember a quote or discussion from, I think, Elon Musk years something like, 'the things you know about that you don't know the solution yet is not so bothersome. But the problems you don't even know about, that's what makes serious challenges in auto mfg ... '
     
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    if you can wait at the end of the year, 2016 Prius 2 will likely price around 18k after rebates.
     
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    you can always add electronic noise like mustang.;)
     
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    Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. I will probably keep on eye on prices and if a screaming deal on a 2014 or 2015 shows up go with used. Otherwise I will wait for the 2017s to come out and then try to pick up a new 2016 at a better price.
     
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    The v is a nice vehicle, but there is a premium over the gen 3 hatch price for the same year.
     
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    G4 improved more on performance and driving dynamics.

    Mechanically and maintenance wise I think G2 to G3 was the bigger improvement. G3 got a bigger engine and went mostly electric.... lost all of its belts, lost the thermos bottle, and lost the tank bladder (those were a lot of maintenance headaches eliminated right there).

    Unless G4 addressed G3 weak points like the inverter (which doesn't look like it), they should be around the same maintenance wise. I don't think the G4 active grill shutters will become a maintenance problem.
     
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    Based on MPG reports, sounds like 2016 Prius improvement is more than 2 MPG over gen3 (excluding eco).
    Don't those grill shutters allow cold engine to warm up lot faster?

    My 2011 engine always kicked on some seconds after Ready from cold start. 2016 rental did not kick on right away. Went slowly down block in EV from a cold start then engine came on pulling onto main road.
    I never like the engine kicking on from a cold start, was annoying.in the morning.
     
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    My understanding is the inverter is an all new design on the gen 4.
     
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    FWIW, Fuelly is showing a big difference in average mpg between Gen 3 (47) and Gen 4 (55).

    While the EPA numbers don't reflect this degree of improvement, my understanding is that something about the EPA's testing or reporting rules changed around 2015 to a degree that 2016 numbers can't be directly compared with earlier numbers.
     
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    My take is the following, as I was recently in a similar situation;

    First, what are your priorities?
    - latest technology?
    - budget friendly?
    - is cargo space important?
    - are you mechanically inclined or have a reliable mechanic?
    - is plug-in important to you?
    - how long do you expect to keep the car?

    I was debating between a used PiP vs a new 2016 (wanted to wait for the Prime, but ran out of time, and not crazy about the 4-seats anyway). Personally, I really wanted a plug in, partly for HOV privileges, and also because we already have a L2 for our Leaf.

    I also wanted something versatile that can take 5 passengers (2 kids + dog), and given we already have a car payment on the Leaf, buying used allowed us to lessen the financial burden.

    I also have a great hybrid/EV mechanic in whom I have clear trust, and with the track record I have had with my Gen 2, I know the maintenance (should/will) be minimal anyway.

    Further, any financial professional will tell you that buying a good used car is a much wiser decision from a financial perspective, given the premium and high depreciation associated with brand new vehicles.

    So, in a sense, it comes down to wants vs needs. The 2016 by most accounts is a 'great' vehicle, however, I am sure a budgetary gen 3 would fit your 'need' perfectly well, at a significantly lower price. But how much is the improved performance and toys worth to you?

    Given all of the above, we went for a 2014 used PiP which I pick up this weekend. :cool: I expect I will likely keep it for 4-5 years, then maybe trade up to a next-gen plugin, like the 5-seat Prime that Toyota should come to their senses about, by then... :LOL:

    Good luck with your decision!
     
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    I would have to agree. With only a week and 650 miles under my belt, my mpg has been outstanding. 646 miles on 10.1 gal of fuel. This has surpassed what I used to get in my 2006 Insight with two seats and next to no cargo room. And we won't even talk about the performance difference. It was all I could do, not to not get run over by trucks while driving the Insight over smallish mountains in the eastern US. J
     
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