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Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by Gen 2 Tom, Aug 27, 2016.
On average, no. But the degree of flagrancy is much lower, and the 'normal spread' of speed overlaps the speed limit. The portion of vehicles obeying the limit is high enough that no rational person can say they are going dangerously slow.
Traveling Sunday afternoon to a Monday cycling event, I witnessed an NPS ranger pull over a speeder, a fellow cyclist going to the same event, on the back side of Mount Rainier National Park. He wasn't going that much faster than us. I've witnessed similar pullovers around the Pacific Northwest many times.
My brother, in another state, gets lots and lots of speeding tickets for 5 mph over the limit. Not as a driver, but as a judge handling citation appeals. Sorry, this is nothing new, it has been this way since before we were old enough to drive. As my driver training instructor warned four decades ago, a habitual 5 over the limit would typically collect points fast enough to lead to license revocation in about a year.
Anyone who rationalizes that 10-20 over is 'safe' on those rural winding roads, is asked to explain why the highway fatality statistics for that region are higher than normal. Plenty of drivers coming off flatter, straighter, wider roads to the east and west seem unwilling or unable to slow down to adjust to the local conditions. I don't want to start naming people I knew who were killed by speeders unable to stay on their own side of the centerline as they rounded tight corners with short sightlines.
i see that a lot around here as well, and people who pass bicycles on corners, with no idea if a car is coming the other way.
To be honest?
From the original post, I'm not even sure I'd want a Zero Speed Hold Feature.
Sometimes I think levels of "convenience" can be somewhat ridiculous. What's the idea here? That we no longer can stand the draconian action of actually holding our foot on the brake to remain stopped? In my day, we called that -"part of driving". I'm all for convenience but I think some conveniences actually remove us too much from involvement.
I've never had a problem braking and holding the brake at any stop. And in my opinion? If that's too much for you? You shouldn't be driving.
As far as I can tell, the only advantage to a Zero Speed Hold feature, is allowing the driver to remove their foot from the brake once stopped.
Really? We need this?
So we have cruise control, that allows us to NOT press the accelerator pedal while driving.
We want Zero Speed Hold Features, that allow us to NOT press the brake while stopped?
Why don't we just buy the self driving car and call it a day?
I'm a hypocrite, as on long drives, I use Cruise Control. It's nice. Can't imagine NOT having it.
But...there's a limit to how much control of actual driving and actions of driving I want to give over to features and computer control.
I fear, that it's a losing battle. Someday, I'll probably drone on in the nursing home about how in my day, you had to use something called a gas pedal to get up to speed and maintain your speed when driving, AND we all had brake pedals, and you had to press them, and keep them pressed to remain stopped. The nurses will just nod and empty out the catheter bag.
Wow, thanks for sharing this.
This doesn't work either. It's called highly correlated traffic and it's highly unstable. Widely studied phenomenon.
Having folks drive different speeds some a bit below some above is actually better.
The only way well get the most efficient traffic is when cars talk to each other and are autonomous.