Gen 5 Prius Prime will charge almost twice slower than Gen 4 Prius Prime

Was there anything else to say about the onboard charger and charge rate? That topic derailed when some snark was given more attention than warranted.

Thought of moving here, 2022 Prius vs. 2023 Prius price comparison | PriusChat but that would involve lots of quoting for new readers going to that thread.

Li-ion costs that low come about with a huge investment in the supply(Tesla), or there is a deal to buy other components from the battery cell supplier(Bolt). Neither of those apply to Toyota. Li-ion costs have also increased some with the increased demand with EVs, in addition to the inflation factor.

The Rav4 Prime SE is $9000 more than the hybrid SE. 5kWH of battery, a faster charger, and more powerful front motor aren't going to add up to $6000.

 

There is maybe one or two features the Rav4 Prime SE has that the hybrid SE does not.

Toyota not selling EV's won't hurt adoption. It hasn't hurt yet.

 

Toyota split the difference on our pricing estimates. You were $1900 low(on the SE), I was $2000 high(across the board). Kirk Kriefels was way high.

 

Conversely...

At 133 MPGe plug-to-wheels, and 3.3 kW, the Gen 4 charges at 13.0 MPH.

At 127 MPGe plug-to-wheels, and 3.5 kW, the Gen 5 SE charges at 13.2 MPH - faster, not slower. (However, the XSE and XSE Premium charge at 11.8 MPH, slower.)