1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Gen4 EGR fate?

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Technical Discussion' started by rosencrantz, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. rosencrantz

    rosencrantz Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2018
    97
    77
    0
    Location:
    Central Valley, CA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I’m curious - has anyone heard of someone having enough miles on their gen4 to warrant cracking open their EGR circuit? Does the current design make for an easier cleaning if/when it’s done? Perhaps someone has viewed the gen4 EGR system via a recycled (wrecked) car...
     
    amos likes this.
  2. padroo

    padroo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    2,763
    2,250
    13
    Location:
    Chesterton, Indiana Another third world country.
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    It will take years before my 2016 gets enough miles to check it out. By then the answer will be found by someone else, sorry I can't help you.
     
    amos likes this.
  3. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,693
    48,945
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    New and improved iirc, hopefully won’t be an issue
     
    amos, rosencrantz and Raytheeagle like this.
  4. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,251
    15,476
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    I had a mark but they got rid of their 2016 at 93k miles :(.

    My inquiring mind wanted to know and I was willing to help(y).
     
    m.wynn and bisco like this.
  5. rosencrantz

    rosencrantz Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2018
    97
    77
    0
    Location:
    Central Valley, CA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Do you happen to know if your “mark” got rid of their 2016 for any particular reason? At my current accumulation rate, I think it’ll take at least a decade to reach 100k. I’m sure we’ll have an answer by that time....first thing to enjoy about retirement - ditch that loooong commute!
     
    padroo, amos, kithmo and 1 other person like this.
  6. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,251
    15,476
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    They sold it for a vw diesel:cool:.

    Something familiar to them ;).

    But if there is someone in Nor Cal or in northeastern Pennsylvania with a gen4 at around 100 k miles, my offer still stands(y).
     
    dbat23, m.wynn and Aaron Vitolins like this.
  7. rosencrantz

    rosencrantz Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2018
    97
    77
    0
    Location:
    Central Valley, CA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Well that’s a nice offer- it’d be good data point. Over the next year or two I’d think a local super commuter will reach 100k+ miles on a gen4.
     
    amos and Raytheeagle like this.
  8. Muneeb

    Muneeb Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    22
    23
    5
    Location:
    SURREY
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Business Edition
    Hi everyone I'm new to this forum but thought I should share my experience. one of our car had problem with EGR(rattling noise on start) but managed to get it changed under warranty from local toyota dealership. Technician informed me that this is the first 2016 Prius they have changed EGR valve. Also mentioned that it took them 2 hours longer to change because they had to remove the inverter which they were not aware off. Anyway job was done under warranty and since then everything is fine except 12v Battery.
     
    amos, Raytheeagle and Mendel Leisk like this.
  9. alanclarkeau

    alanclarkeau Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    7,041
    7,580
    0
    Location:
    near Brisbane, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    How many kilometres have you done?
     
  10. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,662
    38,207
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    upload_2019-3-1_9-16-27.png

    That's the Surrey south of London I assume. We've got one just to the south too, lol.

    With third gen there's a stainless steel pipe running from the EGR valve to intake manifold, that was relatively easy to remove and inspect. It served as canary-in-the-coal-mine for a lot of DIY'rs. Maybe some 4th gen DIY'rs can see if there's similar pipe on theirs, inspect it and report condition?

    On 4th gen, pretty sure it's the item I've highlighted in gold:

    upload_2019-3-1_9-21-59.png
     
    #10 Mendel Leisk, Mar 1, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2019
    amos and bisco like this.
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,693
    48,945
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Not good news
     
  12. Muneeb

    Muneeb Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    22
    23
    5
    Location:
    SURREY
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Business Edition
    70000 Miles
     
  13. Muneeb

    Muneeb Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    22
    23
    5
    Location:
    SURREY
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Business Edition
    Hi yes I live in south of London and I have been dealing with Prius for the past 10years mainly with Uber drivers thats how I get to learn and trouble shoot Prius problems.
    You are absolutely right about the EGR pipe mentioned in picture, to be honest I haven't checked this but I can confirm this next week. We get 5years 100000miles warranty on prius therefore until then I never touch the car. Once its out of warranty then its all mine. Right now we have more serious issue of mouse infestation with Gen4 Prius and Yaris Hybrid 2014 onwards.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  14. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,662
    38,207
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    I think you're entitled to loosen a bolt or two, it's your car. That said, I can understand your concern. A really good case for your argument, would to not open the hybrid battery back prior to warranty expiration.

    But that pipe, they will never know. Wear gloves; leave no prints, lol.
     
    Tande and padroo like this.
  15. Elektroingenieur

    Elektroingenieur Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2017
    2,515
    3,253
    9
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three Touring
    Yes, that’s the EGR pipe assembly (25610-37020). It’s attached at each end with two flange bolts (91551-J0616), torqued to 8.5 N·m. The EGR inlet gasket (25628-36020) at the intake manifold and the EGR pipe gasket (25634-37020) at the EGR valve assembly are non-reusable. The Repair Manual (more info) cautions that the claws of the latter gasket must face the EGR valve assembly.

    Parts catalog references: 17-01, Manifold; 25-01, Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
     
    Mendel Leisk and alanclarkeau like this.
  16. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,662
    38,207
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Are third gen gaskets deemed not reusable as well? The connection at EGR valve is very durable metal gasket, and at intake manifold some sort of flexible plastic ring. I've had it off four times or so, no problems.
     
  17. Elektroingenieur

    Elektroingenieur Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2017
    2,515
    3,253
    9
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three Touring
    Yes; the Repair Manual for 2010 describes each gasket as a “non-reusable part.”
     
    Muneeb, alanclarkeau and Mendel Leisk like this.
  18. Usle

    Usle Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    317
    139
    0
    Location:
    Me
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    My gen 3 the egr dumped into the valves from the top, so there is a problem, my gen4 as the picture shows dumps in on the side, so, is an oil can required?
    I had assumed not, but, this thread is enlightening.
     
  19. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,662
    38,207
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    You're right. And I had the answer at my fingertips of course.

    upload_2019-3-2_17-16-9.png


    In reality gasket #1 "could" be deemed non-reusable, being resilient plastic of some sort, but it seems onerous to also apply the label to gaskets #2 and #3, which are plain metal, not even coated, IIRC.

    Gen 3 and 4 EGR inlet to the intake manifold is roughly similar I think.
     
    Muneeb likes this.
  20. kithmo

    kithmo Couch Potato

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    2,404
    2,773
    47
    Location:
    South Yorkshire, UK
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    [QUOTE="Mendel Leisk, post: 2853948, member: 69191]
    In reality gasket #1 "could" be deemed non-reusable, being resilient plastic of some sort, but it seems onerous to also apply the label to gaskets #2 and #3, which are plain metal, not even coated, IIRC.
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe they are crushable metal, a bit like sump plug gaskets, they don't use those again.