Gen5 is out - what will you do?

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by pakitt, Nov 17, 2022.

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  1. I will trade-in my Prime/PiP and get the new Gen5 Prime

    14.5%
  2. I will trade-in my Prius and get the new Gen5 Prime

    12.9%
  3. I will trade-in my Prime/Prius and get the new Gen5 Hybrid only version

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  4. I will wait for Toyota to come out with a Prius BEV and decide what to do then

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  5. I will wait for Toyota to come out with more BEVs and decide what to do then

    6.5%
  6. I will trade-in my Prime/Prius and get a BEV from another company

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  7. I will trade-in my Prime/Prius and get a PHEV from another company

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  8. I will do nothing until my current vehicle "dies" in X years

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  9. The Gen 5 will be my first Prius or Prime/ I will trade in another vehicle for the Gen 5 Prius/Prime

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  1. pakitt

    pakitt Senior Member

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    Now that we know what the Prius is going to be like, what will your next vehicle be? Another Prius Gen5, or a BEV from another company altogether, or you wait (and hope) that Toyota will come out with a revolutionary "pioneering" Prius BEV that disrupts the market?

    (Apparently Toyota thinks the name Prius is latin for "pioneer", but in fact it means "first"- I don't see how the new Gen 5 Prius is a "pioneer" or "first" with this upgrade. Because an upgrade it is and nothing more. Nothing revolutionary, nothing "prius").
     
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    Missing some choices. I think if there is an affordably priced PHEV that qualifies for the tax credit is found then I am likely to trade in my Prime and get a new PHEV from a company other than TOYOTA (since Toyota no longer qualifies for the tax credit). Ford Escape PHEV is what I would like, but have not found one that is priced low enough.
     
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    seems like the survey is aimed at getting a pro-EV vote.
    Personally we had to replace our 2006 Prius(dead batt) in Feb 2020 with RAV4HV
    Would I get a RAV4 Prime someday if the cost was right? Yes, prefer that to BEV right now anyway.

    Am I excited about Gen5 Prius, all of sudden, Yes!
    Do I plan to get one? No, we always hold cars a long time.
    Also I'd be looking for a bit more cargo space usually I'd get the Gen5 Prius v (if v still existed).
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    i will trade for the phev if it is as good in person as it looks on paper. and if the price is right
     
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  5. pakitt

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    How? I think I put in all sorts of options. Anything I should add or amend?
    The question is - what is your path forward, assuming you own a Prius (of any kind) - or even don't own a Toyota at all?
     
  6. Unsure... I might wait a few more years with my Prime and then get a used Gen 5, either hybrid or plug-in, and AWD preferred. I like most of the changes to the Gen 5, except now they tucked the cup holders under the central display panel. As long as I can still put a thermos there (and not have the central display in the way), I would be interested.

    Major pluses: sunroof! Better fuel economy, better acceleration.

    Question: Does anyone know if stepping on the brakes in the Gen 5 causes that annoying buzzer/actuator sound? Have they finally got rid of it or at least made it a lot quieter?
     
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    You don't give the option of trading to non-Toyota PHEV. Yeah, I would love to go forward for a BEV, but it is not practical for me.
     
  8. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    I've added one more option for "PHEV from another company" and fixed your second option as it was nearly identical to the first one.

    For me, I already purchased a BEV from another company so Toyota will need to make a Prius BEV (and an appealing one) or some other BEV for me to come back.

    I've added the PHEV option at the end.
     
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    Yey! I cast my vote.
     
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    I would LOVE to trade in one of our Prius' for one but we are paying off our house and trying to get my 401K built back up....with the current economic DISASTER and everyone's retirement accounts WAY WAY down....it stinks.
     
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  11. Lee Jay

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    I suspect my 2017 Prime will be my last ICE-containing car. Charging infrastructure is improving much faster than batteries are, so BEVs are getting close to practical even with today's lousy batteries. They're already plenty for around-town as the 35 miles of range or so I get on my Prime is virtually enough for all my in-town driving. Road trips, especially those off the beaten path have been pretty impossible in BEVs but things are improving.

    This G5 would have had to have been spectacular to get me to trade in my Prime. But with no HUD, lousy seat material, lousy wheel and tire options, and no BEV version, there just isn't much reason to "upgrade" (or downgrade) to the new one for me. I'd like the 50% more EV range and the battery under the seat, but I wouldn't like the larger wheels, larger tires, 12V battery in the back, Softex seats (again) and lousy package configurations. I had to buy custom seat covers for my Prime to cover the Softex and would have to do so on this car again.

    Oh...and I certainly would never consider a non-plug-in ever again. They shouldn't even be available on the market. Toyota is 2 generations behind. The G4 should have been designed to be a PHEV from day-one and never sold as a hybrid. This one should be a range-extender with a BEV option, and never sold as a hybrid. Maybe they'll catch on by the G6 timeframe. There's simply no reason to sell a hybrid when the same car is available with a PHEV option for nearly the same manufacturing cost, especially when it can cut your hydrocarbon consumption by 80% or more.
     
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    Eyeing the se prime or hybrid crv sport for my new car
     
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    Two things. First, the head of the administrative branch of the US Federal Government doesn't control the global market. Second, if you're retiring in the next couple of years, you shouldn't have been in the market anyway. If you're not retiring in the next couple of years, stocks are on sale and that means you can buy them at a bargain price, which will help you when you do retire.
     
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    We're keeping the 2017 Prime, selling the Lexus CT200h and are two-four weeks away from receiving the model Y. Will have two cars in the driveway that plug in.
     
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    I will give my Gen 3 to my son and buy a Gen 5 Hybrid or Prime. Prefer the Prime, but one might not be available in time (my son gets the car in May).
     
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    So my plans are unchanged by the Gen 5 announcement: trade my Gen 4 on an Aptera. (Also you forgot some options involving keeping an existing car and adding a Gen 5 or something else.)

    Honestly, before a few days ago (when I saw the reports of a Gen 5 unveil event in LA), I actually was expecting the Gen 5 to not even be imported to the US market, between the drop in sales in everything not a "light truck" in general and the Prius in particular, the Corolla Hybrid existing, and the US plug-in tax credit restructuring (which will probably reduce a lot of Prime demand, as I doubt there'll be any US production and therefore no US eligibility) - to the point that I was suggesting that a friend go out and buy a Gen 4 Prime before they're discontinued. (She didn't, and was waiting on the Gen 5 Prime. Good call in retrospect, because yeah, that's a much better car.) I wasn't quite expecting the Prius to be repositioned as a performance model above the Corolla Hybrid, but it makes sense.

    Worth noting that even when I got my Gen 4, I was interested in a plug-in - I was cross-shopping the Gen 4 with the Volt and with the Model 3. (At the time, I was living in an apartment such that a PHEV would be better than a BEV, though.) I ended up hating the Volt's suspension tuning and interior ergonomics on the test drive, and I actually really liked the Gen 4 (and I was benchmarking against a Miata in driving dynamics, so...) And, as the Gen 4 Prime and the Model 3 would take too long to get in Ohio, and the Gen 4 Prime had the horrible battery packaging and the Model 3 didn't have a liftback... Gen 4 HEV it was.

    I was still living in the apartment when I put a reservation in on an Aptera - the solar roof would get me enough daily range that I could avoid charging most of the year, and even if they miss their range target, it would get me enough range that I could avoid DC fast charging on road trips altogether. Now, I have a shorter commute and a garage where I can plug in... but the Aptera's efficiency and ability to avoid DC fast charging on road trips (even if it looks likely that Tesla's network will open up, giving the option of DC fast charging - I'm not opposed to DC fast charging, I'm opposed to relying on it, especially non-Tesla DCFC, to make roadtrips possible) still wins for me.

    If Aptera fails to launch or there's some critical flaw that makes their vehicle unsuitable for me, ultimately, I still would prefer a BEV over the Gen 5 Prime at this point, and would stick with my Gen 4 in the meantime - there's definitely things I like about the Gen 5 Prime, but it's not what I want any more.
     
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    I will do nothing, because in Europe Toyota wants to sell only expensive PHEV version, which is useless for us, living in apartments.
     
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    Will sit this one out. It is interesting, but our 2010 is very low miles, and babied. At least for a year or two, see how it goes. Might sit in one, see what the headroom’s like, if I’m picking up an oil filter…
     
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    I chose wait and see what BEVs toyota comes up with in the next few years since I'm interested in where BEVs are going right now. I'm glad to see mainstream brands coming out with popular models. Like everyone else I just wish prices were lower and range was further.
     
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    Still waiting on a new 2022 model . This waiting list keeps going on and on. GEN 5 , You'll never see it in your Garage, just saying.