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Global Warming Film

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by TimBikes, Mar 14, 2007.

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  1. malorn

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MegansPrius @ Mar 27 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]413099[/snapback]</div>
    In the book Crichton claims NASA has changed the years of the graphs on their online databases. Do you know if that is true or not. Do they go back past 1880 or not? do you see even in the James Hansen graph, he only goes back as far as 1960. Why do you think that is? Also isn't his entire existence professionally dependent on man-made global warming?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MegansPrius @ Mar 27 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]413099[/snapback]</div>
    I started the Crichton book but frankly couldn't make it through it because I thought the plot line was - well - goofy. As for Gavin - I respect his credentials - but I'm not sure how unbiased he is. He moderates realclimate and there is an absolutely gushing review of Inconvenient Truth there that lets Gore slide completely on the stretchers he spews in his movie (for example, 7 meter sea level rise and 10 C temp increase). Last I checked IPCC was calling for something like 1.8 - 5.2 degrees C and about a half meter sea level rise. The least Gavin could do is apply an equally critical eye to Gore's film. But I guess that wouldn't fit Gavin's agenda.
     
    #22 TimBikes, Mar 30, 2007
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    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TimBikes @ Mar 30 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]414734[/snapback]</div>
    I believe those numbers are attainable if our understanding of CO2 sensitivity is underestimated. Add in a reduction of aerosols and we have a huge snap in a bad direction. You can see Peter Cox's explaination of this in a short preview of "Dimming The Sun". It's a bit of an exageration but that is to be expected in any video. I just listen to the scientists. Full movie here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...mming&hl=en

    Good videos with David Suzuki explaining how big business ALWAYS tries to counter science in an effort to maintain profits.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JiQdfmyrI...ted&search=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzJeT1VVLI...ted&search=
     
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