Got me a Leaf

Discussion in 'Nissan/Infiniti Hybrids and EVs' started by tk1971, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. bisco

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    it's good to know that toyota dealers aren't any worse than nissan.:p
     
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    Well, at least I got 4 free tire rotations and 2 free oil/filter changes from my Toyota / Lexus dealerships. They never tried to up-sell me. I feel so stupid for falling for this one.
     
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    Non-Gen IV Prius news!
    [​IMG]107 miles (172 km) EPA rated range, 8 year/100,000 mile battery warranty.

    30-kWh with SL, SV Models: 124 city, 101 highway and 112 combined MPGe
    24-kWh with S trim Model: 126 city, 101 highway and 114 combined MPGe
    Same 80-kW AC synchronous motor with 107 horsepower and 187 pound-feet of torque.

    * – Nissan LEAF S – $29,010 ($29,010)
    * – Nissan LEAF SV – $34,200 ($32,100) – now includes standard quick charging
    * – Nissan LEAF SL – $36,790 ($35,170)"
    2016 Nissan LEAF: 107 Miles EPA Range - Full Specs/Pricing
     
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    Wow, $5k for another 20 miles of range... no thanks.

    The Leaf has been great. No battery degradation. Haven't been back to a dealer since that first shameful experience where I got had for $58.

    There's a brake controller recall, which I haven't gotten around to (affects cars in colder weather, I'm in So-Cal). And there's another looming recall for something or another, which they'll send the official notice once they get the parts for it.

    It's the wife's car, and charging for her is free at her work. Saving money and time. Only real maintenance on this thing is tire rotations and pressure.

    Oh yeah, the wife ran over something and tore one of the tires. No spare. Patch kit and pump not good enough for a big ol' gash. Still don't need Carwings or GPS (have smartphone).
     
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    thanks for the update and the note on the spare, that's why i have one above deck on my pip.
     
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    It seems virtually all EVs and PHEVs in the US have no spare. I hear it's optional on Gen 2 Volt.

    There are threads on MNL about getting Altima spares from junkyards which turn out to be compatible w/the Leaf (proper size and bolt pattern).

    Re: '16 Leaf SV and SL w/30 kWh battery, well, that can make a pretty big difference. We're talking about 107 miles of range on the EPA test vs. 84.

    The Leaf SV has always had a lot more equipment than the stripped down S trim (see Specs tab of 2016 Nissan LEAF Press Kit - Nissan Online Newsroom). So, it's not only the extra battery capacity (that began on '16 Leaf SV and SL) but it's also stuff like hybrid heater w/heat pump, nav system and telematics (cellular radio on board), CHAdeMO inlet (for DC fast charging), 6.x kW on-board charger (instead of the 3.x kW OBC on the base S), better stereo, longer battery capacity warranty, alloy wheels, and so on.
     
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    You definitely have some. You just won't lose your first capacity bar until ~15% of capacity has been lost.

    If you want to monitor more closely, get Leaf Spy. You'll note your SOH, Hx and # of gids on a fully charge will be lower than when new and generally will decline, over a long period of time.
     
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    Well it's not directly comparable to say another $5k for the SV. Few people get the S without the QC+6.6kW package. That brings the price to $31,630 for the S, versus $35,050 for the SV (2016 now comes with QC+6.6kWh on the SV), so realistically you're looking at an additional $3,420 for an additional 23 miles of range, nav screen + telematics (granted it's not amazing), alloy wheels, heated side mirrors, 2 additional speakers, and most importantly 8years/100k miles capacity warranty (versus the pitiful 5years/60k miles capacity warranty on the S). I'd say that's quite a bit of extras for $3,420.
     
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    I'm looking at 285 GIDs (out of 292 max, which means about 2.4% detected battery capacity loss) after 23k miles on my 2015 SV w/QC in SoCal temps charging to 100% nightly. I've been quite happy with the car, and no one in my family has been stranded yet. A family member almost did this past week when NRG eVgo had a nationwide outage, but luckily there was a Chargepoint L3 close by.

    It's going to be difficult to decide whether to purchase a Model 3 or enjoy no car payments (hopefully timing paying off current set of cars by Model 3 release) with how fuel efficient my household set of cars has become.
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    You can now get 2013's with around 30k miles for less than $7500. Much downside?
     
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    My wife's 2015 has 12k miles on it now. I'm about 24% into a 0 interest 6 year loan and I still owe about $22.5k on it. KBB, Edmunds and any online calculator out there shows my car is worth $5-7k trade in value.

    The car works for my wife. Her daily work round trip is less than 40 miles. We're keeping it and we've had zero problems with it.

    Only thing is I'm trying to get our tax preparer to file an amendment for our 2015 taxes because after we submitted it, I noticed that the tax form 8936 has my vehicle filled out as a 2 wheel vehicle so I didn't get my full credit. The preparer went back to my file try to fix it and told me that it wasn't possible because the number was an automatic default. I've asked for her to call the programmer and the IRS. I'm not giving up on this.


    iPhone ?
     
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    Their resale value is terrible, as you can see.

    Make sure that it will work for your commutes and charging situation, including in the worst cases (e.g. rain and/or snow in cold weather). Also keep in mind battery degradation. Seems like '13s built 4/2013 (see driver's side door sticker) or later are holding up better in terms of degradation. Where it resided before is very important. Hot area == more degraded battery.

    Probably best to join mynissanleaf.com and ask your questions there. I'm quite busy these days and there are lots of knowledgeable folks there.
     
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