Gotta see it to believe it........

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  1. Sharnold

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    So I have this 05 prius roll into the shop with the typical triangle of doom and a check engine light. This car had so many codes I've got all but two fixed. Usual stuff mafs dirty filter dirty needed a coil pack and a O2 sensor..... now the fun I'm pulling a P3012 and a P080A ah yes hybrid battery....... here's the interesting part. The car has had hail damage and I mean hail damage the car has no back glass or one quarter glass it is plexy glass with screws and silicone and is leaking water in to the trunk. Now when you pull the cover off the top of the battery rust on bolts cover everything. My idea is that the battery harness needs cleaning and is probably corroded also it needs dried out........ but wait there's more since the 12 volt battery needs replacement and it has not the owner has a battery in the drivers rear floor board with jumper cables running to the original 12volt battery so other issue could just be the 12volt battery causing the issues........ ideas guys
     
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    I wouldn't touch this with YOUR 10 foot pole!!!! :)
    If the owner is that reckless and careless, it's not worth the liability....
     
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    Wow...I kind of agree. I would not take on that job.
    The owner is careless and you may own that repair forever.
    Cut your losses, give them the car back no charge, and word your
    invoice carefully.
    Just wow. Good luck.
     
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    You may have found the cheapest person in the country. Write up an estimate (that's required by law, isn't it?) for the batteries and windows, don't mention the hail damage (they're clearly fine with that for some reason), and see if they want the work done. I would explain the likely relationship between the windows and battery failure very explicitly, and the danger of their 12V setup (alligator clamps on an unsecured battery? Really?).
     
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    It's what I do I fix the things others say no too. The car was just bought at a auto auction a few weeks ago very cheap and has 65k miles but this is what I've concluded....... the 12 volt battery is one suspect it barely holds 11 volts I'm going to pull the cover on the HV and see how much corrosion there is on the actual harness or batteries and I've already ordered the glass. The owner hasn't been careless he just basically limped the car to get it here
     
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    Well, if it is what you do, then do it. Maybe installing a new 12v battery will resolve the problems and down
    the road he goes. Maybe he's going to restore the car.
    Good Luck! :)
     
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    He actually just wanted the car to do his long commuting to work he said looks don't matter its definitely a unique car
     
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    Well, it sure has character! LOL! If all it needs is glass, a new 12V and maybe some cleaning of the traction battery (and probably a new wiring harness for the battery), it might not be that bad. And the Mythbusters did prove that golf ball dimples on a car do improve the aerodynamics. (y)
     
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    Good heavens. That battery is a Jake-leg fix if I ever saw one. I would also return the car untouched to the owner without charge rather than get involved. The “hail” damage also just does not look right to me as part of the roof is caved in and the other dent damage is surprisingly uneven. Maybe I’m just too old and suspicious, but I would not want to get involved in that owner-car combination. Good luck!
     
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    That car looks like it was hit with asteroids!! What type of hail was that???:D
     
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    This is a myth I wish would die: they didn't, and they don't. On a round ball, which otherwise suffers flow detachment close to its shoulder, surface roughening can greatly reduce overall drag by inducing drag with the surface roughness, which promotes attachment by transitioning the flow from laminar to turbulent sooner than it would naturally on such a short object. On a car, and especially a car like a Prius which is more streamlined than the Taurus they used in that episode, the induced drag from dimpling will increase overall drag since a) most of the flow over cars is already turbulent and b) on well-streamlined cars, most of the flow is already attached.

    There were so many uncontrolled variables in that Mythbuster "test" (and the Porsche 928 backwards "test"), you might conclude they were only doing it for entertainment value. Which--surprise!--they were: it's a TV show, not a scientific study.
     
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    It's the prius version of the mad-max car........
     
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    Replaced the 12volt cleared the codes and installed a quarter glass and the drivers rear window it was just a 12 volt issue as far as the back glass and the sheer awesomeness of this car I wont be partaking in any more on it
     
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    Sorry. I should have made the sarcasm more obvious. :D
     
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