Green New Deal -- Limitations

Ban dryer sheets lol.

 

Certain things that get written into law should come with an automatic death penalty for whomever had a hand in writing it.

The above would qualify
alongside water barrel bans
and bans on parking in your own driveway .

 

Most of us here probably agree totally about being good stewards of the environment. But posting a picture of a dead earth is sort of an ad hominem or emotional attack.

The issue we face is how do we be good stewards of the planet and get 10-billion population at the same time?

 

I think you are sort of missing the point. It takes a little thought.
If you "hurry up" and build a lot of over capacity for the short term you are building a lot of factories and their entire supply chains with old diesel equipment, with older techniques, etc. You may even produce more CO2 on the margins than you save in some cases. But in any case the optimum rate of ramping up needs to be carefully considered not just some arbitrary deadline date.

In any case it doesn't actually matter because there is no way anything like the GND will actually be passed as a law. Instead they will debate plastic straw banning. (which, BTW, I think paper straws or no straws are probably good enough 95% of the time)

Mike

 

do we really need straws?

 

Milkshakes

 

Absolutely. Straws are a necessary evil in life. My wife refuses to ever put her lips on anything that even has the possibility that another person previously may have had theirs. Regardless of sanitizing. (back off, this discussion is in regard to straws only). My life would be miserable without straws.....

 

There will never be a time that this isn't the case. At some point you just need to jump in the deep end and adjust when problems arise. Batteries also happen to be super useful in a lot of situations, so I have a hard time seeing overcapacity ever arising as a significant problem. The larger issue will likely be supply constraints regarding specific critical raw materials needed for whatever battery chemistry is used.

Jay Inslee just ran a climate change plan writing group masquerading as a Presidential campaign. Not only does it provide a realistic blueprint for climate change legislation, but also outlines executive action a President could take alone. Its also quite modular, so the next Congress and/or President could choose to do as little or as much as they want. Its basically the policy details of the GND, so I see it highly possible that at least some, if not much, could actually be implemented.

 

When these people finally get tired of beating their heads against a wall, please refer them to the second half of post #2.....

 

I drink my beverages like a beer ... no straw needed. When you sip a drink, the smell rises to your nose and you get an extra flavor. In contrast, straws remind me of a suckling baby.

Bob Wilson

 

i was advised to take my colonoscopy prep through a straw to the back of the tongue. i guess i could live without it.
if i were concerned about putting my lips on a restaurant glass, i would never have wine or draught beer out.

maybe we could have permanent straws, like water bottles. i just bought a borosilicate glass water bottle, pretty nice, and no more plastic.

 

I have stainless steel and acrylic straws. Lots of options on Amazon, and I see them in Ross now.

 

Do NRA straws come in different calibers with a cleaner rod?

Bob Wilson

 

To be a good activist you need to know a couple things:
(1) Handbook of tactics (have it somewhere) gives tactics that acvtivists use, and tactics the other side (industry etc) uses.
(2) Undertsanding of how Humans Perceive Risk by Rutgers/etc (hint- humans do not weigh risk very well)

I would say 30-years ago, "industry/gov't" had the upper hand with their tactics.
These days public is dis-inclined to trust the authorities so the activists tactics are working overly well.
Re: risk perception, basically we accept enornomous risk if we agree with it, whereas even zero risk is an intolerable outrage if something is viewed as forced in to us.

I should add:
(3) Understanding of American Politics (hint we like to define the enemies as targets (scape-goats)

 

Can't say, but mine came with a suitable brush.

 

Steel straw?
Like this one....

Fatal Accident With Metal Straw Highlights a Risk - The New York Times

They're deadly. They kill people. Glad there wasn't a high capacity box of them, half the neighborhood may have perished...