GreenTecAuto = SCAM

Yes please post the pics. I believe you need a certain number of posts "under your belt" before you can post pics.

I was emailing with GreenTec, never pulled the trigger, Honda Canada came through (Civic Hybrid). Would be interesting to get to the bottom of this.

 

the 'rebuilt', 'remanufactured' battery still has a learning curve in front of it. think of yourself as a missionary, saving a future generation from these problems.

 

There was a member a while ago, bought a new pack from Greentec and it failed in less than a year. He suspected the packs were not new. Either way, they honored the warranty and have him another new pack.

So it seems greentec is at least good at honoring their warranty

 

They look dissimilar in wear, non-consecutive numbers (like ransom bills, haha). There's also grime in the corners, the kind of grime that a Hollywood set designer would die for: looks completely authentically old/used.

 

Your post is great. Thanks for letting us know about this - sorry that you had to experience the inconvenience of learning about the scam.

I doubted that Primearth EV Energy would sell new battery modules to any entity other than an automobile manufacturer and your experience helps to verify that.
Development, manufacture, and sale of a hybrid car and the battery for electric vehicles (battery) | Primearth EV Energy Co., Ltd.

 

We tend to recommend the new batts from Toyota for this reason. Many have been getting decent deals from Toyota even if they are a bit over the warranty, it requires finding a supportive dealer or calling Toyota and asking for assist (after the dealer has diagnosed the problem). I assume all 3rd party batts are reconditioned as per Patrick above and did not know Greentec was saying "new cells"..

 

Here is the product title:
Toyota Prius Gen 2 Hybrid Battery, Unlimited Mileage Warranty | GreenTec Auto

Toyota Prius (2004 – 2009) Generation 2 Hybrid Battery Pack WITH NEW GENERATION CELLS

What is a "New Generation" Cell?

In the product description, there is a disclosure that the battery is "remanufactured". "Warranty: We guarantee Toyota Prius Generation 2 remanufactured batteries rebuilt with 2nd Generation Remanufactured Cells for 48 months, the same as a new battery at a great savings."

$2,295 isn't much of a savings in my opinion.

Here is another scam for Classic Prius:

Toyota Prius 1st Generation Hybrid Battery with NEW Cells | GreenTec Auto

The webpage says, "Warranty: We guarantee 1st Generation Toyota Prius (2001-2003) batteries, Rebuilt with NEW Cells for 4 years, better than a new battery at a great savings."

A lie, which is contradicted on the same page, where you can find the following two bullets:

• Re-engineered with upgraded materials

• Completely remanufactured and tested

 

Well unless someone decides to take Greentec to court, they can claim whatever they want.

 

For fun I looked up the Texas Consumer Protection statute:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/BC/word/BC.17.doc

"Sec. 17.12. DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING. (a) No person may disseminate a statement he knows materially misrepresents the cost or character of tangible personal property, a security, service, or anything he may offer for the purpose of

(1) selling, contracting to sell, otherwise disposing of, or contracting to dispose of the tangible personal property, security, service, or anything he may offer; or

(2) inducing a person to contract with regard to the tangible personal property, security, service, or anything he may offer."

However, the penalty for violation of that law is basically a light slap on the wrist:

"(d) A person who violates a provision of Subsection (a) or (b) of this Section is guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction is punishable by a fine of not less than $10 nor more than $200.

Acts 1967, 60th Leg., p. 2343, ch. 785, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1967. Amended by Acts 1969, 61st Leg., p. 2045, ch. 701, Sec. 1, eff. June 12, 1969."

Why bother to have the law in the first place when there is such a minimal penalty for violation of it?

 

I do not read anywhere that Greentec is saying they fill up a Gen2 pack with NEW modules, so no lie and no scam. I am most definitely NOT a fan of remanufactured batteries, but GreenTec is being reasonably straightforward and should not be libeled.

The Gen1 blurb is poorly worded. They say 'new' to mean Gen (2nd gen) modules. Since they later clarify the meaning I very much doubt that a charge of scam would hold up in court.

 

Well, what does "new generation" cells mean to a casual reader?

Look at the Classic Prius battery webpage, warranty section, and tell me if you continue to have the same opinion after reading that webpage.
Toyota Prius 1st Generation Hybrid Battery with NEW Cells | GreenTec Auto

 

No idea, but since I read adverts all day long that use ambiguity to encourage consumers to jump to the wrong conclusions, I don't see GreenTec as any different. Well, better actually because their follow-up text clarifies what the consumer is actually buying.

 

I see 2 ads for 3rd gen Prius battery. This one, lower price, remanufactured:



And this one, higher priced, with "NEW GENERATION CELLS". A play on words, a ploy, or new cell claim?

 

And it doesn't matter anyway since the maximum penalty is $200.

The lower priced one probably has 10-year old 2G battery modules in it...

 

Any way you put it.....it's a SCAM

 

Are you so confident that you are willing to risk a libel suit ? I ask, because if I was the GreenTec owner I would have you, Patrick, and OP in my cross-hairs. This is the internet, but you are NOT anonymous.

But sure ... go ahead. Stick your neck out. And hope that being part of a mob saves it.

 

Nevermind.
I think Sagebrush is right.