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Heater only blows cold

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by LoganP, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. LoganP

    LoganP Junior Member

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    Hi there,

    My first post here, I have 2x 2006 Prius and they both drive great!
    However in one of them I discovered the heater doesn't blow hot. I bought the car in summer and didn't think to check, so it's been like that during my entire ownership.

    So far I've replaced the thermostat and radiator cap and re-bled the system with no improvement to the heater situation.
    Then I pulled the heater pump to check operation of that: (Item 87200A in the diagram below)
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    This bench tested fine and I couldn't see any visible blockages.

    Now im contemplating if there's an issue with the coolant flow control valve P/N 16670-21010 but everything I've read online seems to suggest that an issue with this would throw an engine code. Could this part be faulty or clogged and not show a check engine light?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on what else to check?
     
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    Our NZ (and JDM) Prius do not have the coolant control valve. That is associated with the coolant heat recovery system which we don't have.

    Have you checked that coolant flows to and from the heater core freely?
     
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    Our colleague, Bill Merchant, on post nr. 4 in this topic says something about a fuse...
    Did you check it?
     
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    The blower runs, right? It blows air, just the air it blows isn't hot?

    If so, the blower fuse is ok.

    The small electric heater elements make a barely noticeable difference; they are only 700 watts worth of heat, compared to 5300 watts worth extracted from the hot engine coolant. There is probably nothing wrong with them and you would probably not be able to feel the difference if there were.

    With the engine up to temperature and a demand for heat, have you felt the hoses to and from the heater, in the engine compartment? If the 'to' hose is hot, the hot coolant is circulating. If the 'from' hose is equally hot, the coolant is circulating through the heater without having much heat extracted.

    That would only mean the air being blown by the heater is not passing through that core. The heating temperature is regulated by a movable door that determines how much of the air goes through the core and picks up heat, and how much goes around the core and does not.

    There is a switch and actuator check mode for the heater that can let you command that door to various positions and confirm it goes there (or just running the heater and changing the temperature setting from max cold to max hot should have that effect too). If the actuator doesn't move, there's the problem. If the actuator moves but the air temperature doesn't change, the door is broken inside the heater.

    If the actuator moves and changes the air temp when you explicitly command it, but not in ordinary operation, the cabin temperature sensor might be flaky or disconnected leaving the ECU to think no heat is needed.
     
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    Thanks for the detailed replies. I was expecting a notification email or something but it didnt come through.
    Good to know that my prius doesnt have the control valve, I was scratching my head trying to see where it was without removing the bumper etc...it didnt look attached to anything going to the heater!
    I did check the fuses a while ago but forgot to add that to the post, all are ok and yes the blower motor works. I will reassemble, bleed and check if the coolant is hot at the entrance and exit to the heater core and report back.
     
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    While I had the heater pump out I blew the heater core out with the compressor multiple times until clear water could flow through it. Looks like it must have been clogged as a lot of particles came out!

    Now its blowing nice and warm. Thanks for the assistance.
     

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