Help with Prius Plug in or Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by innerpri, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. innerpri

    innerpri Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2012
    55
    7
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Hi everyone.
    I need a new car.
    I have driven the Prius and the PiP. Enjoyed both. I could see myself in both.
    Should gov. incentive 2500, 0% financing, Maryland 6% tax reimbursed, and Toyota financial 2000 cash make this a good deal?

    I drive 16 miles to work, no charging station at my work.

    My energy co. charges 6.25 Cents a kWh?

    Am I over analyzing this? less gas, saves money, emmissons, and fits all the kids....

    Which should I go for?
     
  2. John H

    John H Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    2,208
    556
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Is your 16 miles to work in each direction or round trip? If it's round trip, go test drive a Volt. You can go round trip without plugging in and may get by without putting gasoline in for months, or years. The current leases are pretty aggressive, probably less than $10/day if you only drive 32 miles a day.
     
  3. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    88,622
    39,602
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    it's a $2,000. better deal than i got! go for the pip, you won't regret it. all the best!
     
  4. innerpri

    innerpri Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2012
    55
    7
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    16 miles one way.
     
  5. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    88,622
    39,602
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    so you'll get to work all electric and come home in hybrid mode. then you'll learn how to use half your electric in the most efficient way on the way to work and the same on the way home for best efficiency overall.
     
  6. David Welch

    David Welch Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    9
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I live on an island and use ev nearly 60 percent of the time. If the ev range were 50 or 100 I would have bought the car but ended up leasing it hoping that any newer models' ev range increases in 3 years. Lease worked better for me. Definitely plug in over regular any way you look at it.

    Nexus 7 ? 2
     
  7. David Welch

    David Welch Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    9
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    And your electricity is dirt cheap! I'm at $0.15 a kwh

    Nexus 7 ? 2
     
  8. John H

    John H Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    2,208
    556
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    that's the downside of living on an island. :)
     
  9. sdtundra

    sdtundra Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    1,314
    193
    0
    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Well the base plug in comes close to a Prius II or III price after incentives and includes more stuff as well as the EV range and carpool stickers here in CA. I'd go for a PiP
     
  10. John H

    John H Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    2,208
    556
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    if they are only paying $0.0625 /kwh I don't think they are in CA. :)
     
  11. David Welch

    David Welch Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    9
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Yes one of them. Gas is 4.70 a gallon so much cheaper to use EV and access solar canopy charging at the grocery store.




    Nexus 7 ? 2
     
  12. John H

    John H Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    2,208
    556
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    If you had 40 miles of EV range what would your EV% jump to?

    I am at about 83%, mainly because my son was driving all over the place all summer till he went back to college. I get almost free charges powered by wind turbines, $25/6 months unlimited.
     
  13. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    10,857
    3,341
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Hi Maryland driver, but I would be shocked if you are paying 6 cents/kwhr for elec.
    We here in NoVA are paying 12 cent/kwhr and we are one of the cheapest in the DelMarVa region.
    Anyways it is up to you on PiP plug-in. I assume you are paying more for the vehicle it probably will not pay out. Lots of folks get them because (1) some states (CA) give car pool HOV lane access to PiP's but not hybrids (I do not think MD fits in this category) or (2) they are big supporters of plug-in technology, either out of interest or some people feel petroleum is a bad thing. So if the shoes fits...otherwise Prius liftback or v wagon are fine options.
     
  14. David Welch

    David Welch Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    9
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Probably 95% EV with that range. Wind Power would be nice or solar on the garage. For now the electricity is mostly drawn from the grid at an expense.

    Nexus 7 ? 2
     
  15. John H

    John H Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    2,208
    556
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    if you want to see how much energy your drive to/from work would take you can put your route into this tool and see what it would be. I think the PiP looks pretty close to the Leaf in EV mode.

    if you want to use the tool with a Volt, add the "Opel Ampera" (european version of the Volt)

    www.jurassictest.ch/GR/
     
  16. innerpri

    innerpri Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2012
    55
    7
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
  17. priuskitty

    priuskitty PIP FAN

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2011
    2,286
    334
    0
    Location:
    Clawson, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    make sure you put in 2.7 kwh for battery size if you're testing a PIP
     
    John Hatchett likes this.
  18. David Welch

    David Welch Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    9
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    [quote="Does that mean I wild be charging for 3 hrs and 6.25 x3?[/quote]

    Yes, maybe less. Some say charging lasts about 2.5 / 2.75 hours!
     
  19. innerpri

    innerpri Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2012
    55
    7
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    JH, that is cool thanks.
     
  20. John H

    John H Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    2,208
    556
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    With the Volt, a full charge (about 40 miles) is about 12kwh, so @ 6.25 that would be 75 cents a day with some spare miles every day, and NO gasoline, unless you decide to take a road trip, and then you can run in hybrid mode like the Prius.
     
Loading...