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  1. hill

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    still time to fix the title
     
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    Yep. Putting bands on cars is kind of a silly thing to do. I wonder if they're rubber or rock bands.
     
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    Apparently title editing dies much faster than post editing. Sorry for driving the grammar/spellun nazis crazy.
     
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    Larger view gives context:
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    So what did the article say:

    Liverpool’s Alder Hey children’s hospital turns away electric car from car park due to ‘fire risk’ as it upgrades sprinkler system

    A father taking his son to a children’s hospital in Liverpool said he was turned away from a parking lot because he was driving an electric vehicle that “might catch fire”.

    Paul Freeman-Powell said he was told by a security guard at Alder Hey children’s hospital to park outside the lot because of a fire or explosion danger posed by the EV’s battery.

    Alder Hey hospital confirmed it has temporarily bannd EVs from one of its smaller car parks while it upgrades the lot’s sprinkler system.

    In a statement the hospital said that on advice from Merseyside Fire and Rescue it had “temporarily restricted the parking of electric vehicles in one of our smaller car parks while we upgrade its fire sprinkler system”.

    Well that works for me. Let the gas and diesel cars survive the concentrate of tail pipe emissions on those responsible.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    #1 - fire sprinklers can in no way douche out a battery fire ...
    #2 - per million miles of driving - ev fires are far less likely then a fire from a gasser.
    - never mind that many newer electric cars are using much less volatile battery chemistries.

    it just plays into the ongoing false narratives like hybrids getting blamed for the Sudbury nickel mine pollution
     
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    I thought London was enlightened regarding zero emission vehicles
     
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    Here is the Merseyside Fire and Rescue squad that issued the EV warning:
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    The are avid fans of Rupert Murdoch publications.

    Here is their technical department with an EV:
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    Clarkson on the right.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    My Nissan Leaf caught on fire 157 times more often than all my other cars combined.

    157 x 0 = 0 times.

    Is this proof that it's time to go make and drink some switchel?
     
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    All cars catch fire because that's what cars do—catch fire. They are full of a flammable liquid and/or have a flammable battery.

    This is especially true for Nissans. Here is a Nissan Murano, which is not an EV, making it to the news the other day for spontaneous combustion.

    Their Nissan SUV was parked in the driveway. Then it caught fire and exploded | CNN Business
     
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    Report: EVs Less Likely to Catch Fire Than Gas-Powered Cars - Kelley Blue Book

    Our Pacifica was on a recall because a dozen spontaneously caught on fire (out of some 100,000 units), whether charging, discharged, fully charged, or just driving down the road. All it needed was a software fix ... & since it didn't have over the air capability, it required being on a wait list to get in the shop ... a loaner car .... & a two-week visit for the fix due to incompetent service techs that refused to read the service bulletin ... until & after their 4th attempt.
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    No... no, that's actually on-brand.

    OK I had to go look that up, a ginger-y haymaker's punch.

    Could do some damage if it weren't tied down when the winds kicked up if you know what I mean and I think you do... :whistle:
     
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    I'm not following you. It has been a little windy. But it's spring and it's hot out in the field irrigating and I've been craving some good switchel, it's been a family tradition for generations. It's made of ginger, vinegar and brown sugar or molases. You should try some, it's pretty good and you don't need lemons like lemonade. Lemons don't grow here in Colorado that I know of.

    Maybe you think too much. But then again, comparing cars that don't catch on fire to drinking switchel is also thinking too much.
     
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    IIRC, the 1993 Mazda 323 that I had had a recall because the ignition switch could catch on fire.
     
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    Every time I read the thread title, one of my favorite toys props in my mind:
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    I love this thread . . . don't change a thing.

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    Relax, I just meant that the switchel recipe sounded pretty good. Sometimes vinegar flavors are a bit much for me though.
     
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    One difference between ICE and BEVs is that ICE cars are designed to create explosions.
    This is a part of their normal operations and required to allow the car to drive.

    That being said, it is also normal for ICE cars to contain those explosions within the engine.
    On another note, when a piston rod ‘blows’, it is rather impressive.
     
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    The only vehicle I had to put out a fire on was a Toyota Land Cruiser that caught fire and was on the side of the highway. I saw it, I pulled over, I got the driver out of the car and I took my fire extinguisher and, well, extinguished the fire that was under the hood. The fire wasn't very big though, so the car survived just fine. It looked to me like the powersteering system was squirting fluid onto the exhaust manifold.

    Controlling those "explosions" is what makes a huge difference in emissions and performance. But it does evoke awe and admiration for the engineering that goes into building an internal combustion engine. I just saw some of the Toyota, Mazda, Subaru heritage event and how they've been known for distinct ICE designs over the years. These different designs gave those cars character. Modern cars are great, but they lack a lot of character. They all pretty much sound and feel the same and most people don't even know what's under the hood on them anyway.

    I crave driving a WRX, an RX-7 or RX-8, an MR2, all with a stick shift of course.
     
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    Many of the recalls for fire risk involve the meek 12 volt systems.
     
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