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Discussion in 'Prime Plug-in Charging' started by nusrat, Aug 14, 2017.

  1. nusrat

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    Is there any way to, for example, power an A/C vacuum to clean my car while at a charging station?
     
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    welcome!

    nope.
     
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    As the psychotherapists say, "Can you say more?" Is there some fundamental technical reason that some kind of adapter / converter to do this couldn't practically be devised?
     
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    i would say that nothing is impossible. how much time/money do you want to invest in vacuuming your car?:)
     
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    I meant... I spent a while googling to see if something like this already exists, but found nothing. So I'm wondering if searching for it is a waste of time -- for example, if there's some technological or economic bar which might explain why it isn't made by anyone. After all, most household electrical items are 15 amps / 1500 watts or less. So, why couldn't some combination of transformer / inverter / rectifier in a single gadget do this?
     
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    You can hook an inverter up to the 12v battery and, leaving the car in Ready Mode, get 800-1000 watts output. The J plug provides energy to a charger, which then charges the battery.There is no reverse path from the battery through the charger. I saw a J plug with a 110v outlet on it somewhere on the internet, but it may have been faked. There are inverters available that will connect directly to the HV battery. Google is your friend. Remember to leave the car in Ready Mode if you go the 12v route.
     
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    This is the best solution. Putting a 110v outlet at the charging pedestal. I would have assumed that this is standard procedure...I guess not.
     
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    I was surprised how rare it is.
     
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    Yes, but I was looking for something which would handle all the interfacing needed to be able to plug-in to a public station. Sorry, should have been more specific in my OP.
     
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    I can only offer what is doable, sorry. A L1 charger will have 120v, but an L2 charger will not.
     
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    I know I'm starting to sound like a "princess" here, but I was hoping to avoid needing to mess with the battery. I already have an inverter, but it maxes at 400w, and I would have liked to be able to use 1200-1500w devices. Oh, well, unrealistic me....
     
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    The only way to get that much energy out is to interface with the HV battery. It is not hugely difficult, just expensive. How about a small generator?
     
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    Yes, there is.
    Some (not all) ChargePoint stations have both an L1 and L2 charger in the same pedestal. The L1 is just a (locking) cover over a regular 110v outlet. When you tap your card the L2 cable is unlocked and so is the cover hiding the L1 outlet. But I don't know if the relays for both will stay closed unless you tap another valid card.

    And, of course even if you have to pay, this is very economical in many cases. Places where you have to insert quarters to use a vacuum only give you 5 minutes or so for a dollar or two. With the CP station you get a whole hour! You just need to bring your own vacuum.
    These stations are pretty rare now since most new ones I've seen have two L2 cords.

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    Dyson has a number of battery powered vacuum cleaners. If you feel compelled to vacuum when charging visit us:

    9011 Randall Rd,
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    Bob Wilson
     
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    I thought Mr. Dyson was in the UK... <confused>
     
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