1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

How are the new enginer kits?

Discussion in 'Prius PHEV Plug-In Modifications' started by adric22, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. Flaninacupboard

    Flaninacupboard Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    1,297
    213
    0
    Location:
    Midlands - UK
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I don't know enough about battery behaviour to say for sure, but i believe in buddy cell setup a defective cell would slowly die, bringing it's buddy down enough to bring overall voltage low enough for the BMS to shut down the converter. with no buddy, the cell goes from 3.5 to 2v, not enough to drop the string (48v) to a point where the converter shuts down, and the cell cooks itself.

    an active 32cell balancer would be better, but a 16cell with buddies is more resiliant than two strings of sixteen.
     
  2. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    I have thought about Getting a kit. My needs could easily be handled by the kit. 90 percent of my Driving needs Could be handled by 15 to 20 miles Of the EV range.

    The lack of active balancing is 1 of the biggest reasons why i have not done so as of yet. Implement an effective system That will make it much more User friendly. That alone Will greatly increase market value For a lot of people
     
  3. seilerts

    seilerts Battery Curmudgeon

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    3,326
    1,512
    38
    Location:
    Santa Fe, NM
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    I've gone months without needing to manually balance my string, and even then it was just a couple of cells. Active balancing is decidedly not necessary on a daily or even weekly basis. In terms of price, no other PHEV kit even comes close. For $2500, you could be pushing into 100 MPG territory if 90% of your driving is low speed city streets.
     
  4. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    Well i have not ruled out the plug on a pri yet. But the Leaf will cover 98% of my driving needs. Right now my very limited Zenn covers more than 80% of my needs and its only good for ten miles at a time. (dwell i could. Go farther but it gets slow at that point. The pitfalls of cheap batteries ).
     
  5. Floyd2

    Floyd2 progressio per sententia

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2009
    106
    23
    0
    Location:
    Netherlands, Europe
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Sounds very promising Scott, I can hardly wait untill the kit arrives. Most of my daily route is in city streets and 50 mph roads. If I get 85 mpg over the total 24 mile stretch I am a happy man.

    I got my 4 kWh even cheaper for $2250 by bidding on ebay. Since shipping to Europe cost me an extra $250 what better price could I wish for. :)